#295: The (Brian) Jonestown Massacre
I expect that if you mention
the name Jonestown to a lot of people today they’d attach no importance or
significance to it. There is a
generation of people who still shudder at what happened at Jonestown though,
and relive with a certain terror the events on the final day, in particular the
final evening within the complex. For
those who don’t remember, or don’t know, The Reverend Jim Jones, a madman in
anyone’s terms, led his congregation into a mass suicide, after the slaughter
of five people at a nearby airport in Guyana. At the airport lay a US congressman, Leo Ryan, by all
accounts a decent man, three reporters and one of Jim Jones own people who were
trying to escape. This act of murder fuelled
the paranoia that Jones had been feeding his people for years, and the result
was 908 people dead – elderly, children, babies – everyone, including Jones
himself. Jones had every right to kill
himself, but by taking those who could make that choice with him, along with
those who were unwilling, was the work of a man who was clearly insane.
Just how bloody crazy Jim
Jones was is a matter of debate, and that debate has raged since he appeared on
the scene back in the early ‘70s, if not before. However he did reach the nadir of insanity
with his last weeks on Earth, and I’m sure that there’s still people out there
who believe that he was indeed the Messiah, much the same that some Branch
Davidians still believe in their own saviour, David Koresh, another
megalomaniacal nut job who led people to death.
It is debatable that both Jones and Koresh were hounded by the
authorities, in Koresh’s case he was hounded a fair bit, but, to be fair, if
they were just peaceful people who genuinely wanted to lead peaceful lives then
people would more than likely have left them alone. However once you start reading about either
person, not just the sanctioned books, but legal documents, FBI and CIA files,
you soon realise that these people’s heads probably rattled like spray paint
cans when shook.
Here’s some evidence for
you. Once Jim Jones hit Jonestown he
made sure that everything was audio-taped.
These days he’d merely blog or post videos onto YouTube, but back then a
good C-90 tape was the best he could do.
When the FBI swept in after the event they had people listen to every
utterance that Jones made – it’d be enough to send anyone psychotic really, but
in the transcripts is this, the last hour of Jim Jones’s life, and that of 908
other people as they all lined up and willingly, or unwillingly in some cases,
drank cyanide laced Kool-Aid, wandered off, lay down and died. Read this and weep for the innocents who
died, who did not have a choice but were murdered, at Jones’s command, by their
parents and carers. Suffer little
children indeed.
Jones: ...I have loved you how very much I have tried my
best to give you the good life ... in spite of all that I've tried, a handful
of our people, with their lies, have made our life impossible. There's no way
to detach ourselves from what's happened today. Not only - We're in a compound
situation, not only are there those who have left and committed the betrayal of
the century, they have stolen children from others and then seek right now to
kill them because they stole their children, and we are sitting here waiting on
a powder keg. I don't think it is what we want to do with our babies. I don't
think that's what we had in mind to do with our babies. It was said by the
greatest of prophets, from time immemorial, "No man takes my life from me,
I lay my life down." (Crowd: yeah!!) So, to sit here and wait for the
catastrophe that's going to happen on that airplane (it's gonna be a
catastrophe) ... Almost happened here, almost happened, the congressman was
nearly killed here... But you can't steal people's children. You can't take off
with people's children without expecting a violent reaction. And, that's not so unfamiliar to us, either,
even if we were Judeo-Christian, even if we weren't Communists. The worldly
kingdom suffers violence and the violence is triggered by force. If we can't
live in peace then we must die in peace. (Applause) We've been so betrayed, we
have been so terribly betrayed, but we've tried, and as Jack Beam often said
(and I don't know where he's at right this moment, poor Jack), he says if it’s
only worked one day then it was worthwhile ... (crowd cheers) ... Of what's
going to happen here in a matter of a few minutes, is that one of the few on
that plane is gonna shoot the pilot. I know that. I didn't plan it, but I know
it's gonna happen. They're gonna shoot that pilot, and down comes that plane
into the jungle and we had better not have any of our children left when it's
over, 'cause they'll parachute in here on us. I'm telling you just as plain as
I know how to tell you, I've never lied to you... I never have lied to you. I
know that's what's gonna happen, that's what he intends to do and he will do
it. He'll do it. What's there being so bewildered with many, many pressures on
my brain, seeing all these people behave so treasonous, it is just too much for
me to put together, but, I now know what he was telling me and it'll happen. If
the plane gets in the air even. So my opinion is that we be kind to children
and be kind to seniors and take the potion like they used to take in ancient
Greece, and step over quietly because we are not committing suicide. It's a
revolutionary act. We can't go back. They won't leave us alone. They're now
going back to tell more lies which means more congressmen. And there's no way,
no way we can survive. Anybody ... Anyone that has any dissenting opinion,
please speak ... Yes ... You can have opportunity, but if their children are
left we're gonna have them butchered. We can make a strike but we'll be
striking against people that we don't want to strike against. And what we'd
like to get is the people who caused this stuff and some, there's some people
here are prepared to know how to do that, ... go in town and get Timothy Stoen,
but there's no plane, there's no plane, you can't catch a plane in time. He's
responsible for it. He brought these
people to us. He and Deanna Myrtle. But people in San Francisco will not, not be idle over
this. And not take our death in vain, you know ... Yes, Christine...
Christine: Is
it too late for Russia?
Jones: Here's why it's too late for
Russia.
They killed. They started to kill. That's why it makes it too late for Russia.
Otherwise I'd said, "Russia,
you bet your life." But it's too late. I can't control these people.
They're out there. They’ve gone with the guns and it's too late. And once we
kill anybody, at least ... that's the way I've always ... I've always put my
lot with you. And when one of my people do something, it's me. ... Understand,
I don't have to take the blame for this, but I don't live that way. They said
deliver up Jjara, who tried to get the man back here. Jjara, who's mother's
been lying on him and lying on him and trying to break up this family. and
they've all agreed to kill us by any means necessary ...You think I'm going to
deliver them Jjara? Not on your life. No. (Crowd: No No!) .
Unman: Is there any way if I go,
that it'll help?
Jones: No, you're not going. You're not going. (Crowd: No! No!) Not going. I can't live that way. I cannot
live that way. I've lived for all and I've died for all (applause). I’ve been living on a hope for a long time,
Christine, and I appreciate… You've always been a very good agitator. I like
agitation because you have to see two sides of one issue, two sides of the
question. What's those people gonna get done once they get through? They make our life worse than hell, they'll
make the Russians not accept us. When they get through lying ... They told so
many lies between there and that truck that we are, we Are acme in as far as
any other alternative.
Christine: Well, I say let's make an
airlift to Russia,
that's what I say. I don't think nothing is impossible, if you believe it.
Jones: But how we gonna air ... How're you going to
airlift to Russia?
Christine: Why, I thought they said if
we got in an emergency, they gave you a code to let them know.
Jones: No, they didn't. They gave us the code that
they'd let us know of an issue, not us create an issue for them. They said if
we ... if they saw the country coming down, they'd agreed they'd give us the
code, they'd give us a code. You can check on there and see if it's on the
code. Check with Russia
to see if they'll take us in immediately.
Otherwise we die. I don't know
what else you say to these people. But to me death is not ... death is not a
fearful thing; it's living that's treacherous. (applause) I have never, never,
never, never seen anything like this before in my life. I've never seen people
take the law ... and do ... in their own hands, and provoke us and try to
purposely agitate and murder of children. There's no use, Christine, it's just
not worth living like this ... not worth living like this.
Christine: I think that there were too
few who left for twelve hundred people to give them their lives, for those
people that left.
Jones: Do you know how many left?
Christine: Oooh, twenty odd ... that's,
that's small...
Jones...
twenty-odd, twenty-odd...
Christine: Compared to what's here.
Jones: twenty-odd. But what's gonna happen when they
don't leave. I hope that they could leave…but what's gonna happen when they
don't leave?
Christine: You mean the people here?
Jones: Yeah, what's gonna happen to us when they
don't leave? When they get on the plane and the plane goes down?
Christine: I don't think it'll go down.
Jones: - You don't think it'll go
down? (Crowd: Yes it will ..,) I wish I could tell you
you were right, but I'm right. There's one man there, who blames, and
rightfully so, Eddie Blakey, for the murder, for the murder of his mother and
he'll sh... he'll stop that pilot by any means necessary. He'll do it. That plane
will come out of the air. There's no way you can fly a plane without a pilot.
Christine: I wasn't speaking about that
plane. I was speaking about the plane for us to go to Russia.
Jones: How to…to Russia? Do you think Russia’s
gonna want .. no they're not gonna ... Do you think Russia's gonna want us with all
this stigma? We had really had some
value ... but now we don't have any value.
Christine: Well, I don't see it like
that. I mean, I feel like as long as there's life, there's hope. That's my
faith.
Jones: Well, someday we're gonna die, someplace that
hope runs out. ‘Cause everyone
dies. (Crowd: right, right) ... I haven't
seen anybody yet that didn't die. And I'd like to choose my own kind of death
for a change. I'm tired of being tormented to hell, that's what I’m tired of
(Crowd:
right, right).. Tired of it.
(applause) Tired of people's lives in my hands and I certainly don't
want your life in my hands and I'm going to tell you, Christine, without me,
life has no meaning. ... I'm the best friend you'll ever have. And once, once I
have to pay, I'm standing with Jjara, I'm standing with those people. They're
part of me. I could detach myself ... my attorney says detach myself ... no,
no, no, no, no. no ... I'd never detach myself from any of your troubles. I've
always taken your troubles right on my shoulders and I'm not gonna change that
now. It's too late. I've been running too long.
Not gonna change now. ... Maybe the next time you'll get to go to Russia
... the next time 'round ... This is, what I'm talking about to now is in the
dispensation of judgment. This is the revolutionary this is revolutionary
suicide council, I'm not talking about self. Self-destruction. I'm talking
about what, we have no other road. I will take your call. We will put it to the
Russians, and I can tell you the answer now, because I'm a prophet. Call the
Russians and tell them and see if they'll take us.
Christine: Not that I'm afraid to
die...
Jones: I don't think you are...
Christine: by no means...
Jones: I don't think you are...
Christine: But I look at all the babies
and I think they deserve to live...
Jones: I agree...
Christine: you know
Jones: But also they deserve ... what's more they
deserve peace.
Christine: We all came here for
peace...
Jones: And we, have we had it?
Christine and
crowd:
No...
Jones: I tried to give it to you. I've laid down my
life, practically, I've practically died every day to give you peace ... and
you still not have any peace. You look better than I've seen you in a long
while, but it's still not the kind of peace that I want to give you.
The person's a fool who
continues to say that you're a winner when you're a loser.. Win one, lose
two....What? I didn't hear you ma'am, you have to speak up ... That's a sweet
thought, who said that? ... Come on up and speak it again, honey. Stand up and
say it about (inaudible) ... love ... (inaudible) is taking off, no plane is
taking off ... It's suicide. They have done it ... Stoen has done it ... but
somebody ought to live ... somebody ... can they talk ... can they not talk to San Francisco to see that
Stoen does not get by with this infamy? ... With this infamy ... he has done
the thing he wanted to do ... to have us destroyed.
Christine: When you, when you, when we
destroy ourselves we're defeated ... you are saying, "Let the enemy defeat
us."
Jones: Did you see, did you see "I Live to
Fight No More Forever"?
Christine: Yes, I saw that.
Jones: Did you not have some sense of pride and
victory in that man, that he would not subject himself to the will and whim of
people who tell that they are gonna come in whenever they please, push into our
house, come when they please, take who they want to, talk to who they want to
... does this let living ... that's not living to me. That's not freedom. That's
not the kind of freedom I sought.
Christine: But
I think where they made their mistake is when they stopped to rest. If they had
gone on, they would have made it. But they stopped to rest...
Unman: It's over, sister, it's over ... we've made
that day ... we made a beautiful day and let's make it a beautiful day ...
that's what I say.
Jones: We win, we win when we go down. Tim Stoen has
nobody else to hate ... He has nobody else to hate. Then he'll destroy himself.
I'm speaking here not as the administrator, I'm speaking as a prophet today ...
I wouldn't sit up in this seat and talk so serious if I did not know what I was
talking about. Is there any way to call back ... the immense amount of damage
that's going to be done? But I cannot separate myself from the pain of my
people. And you can't either, Christine, if you stop to think of it. You can't
separate yourself. We've walked too long together.
Christine: I know that. But I still
think, as an individual, I have a right to...
Jones: You do, I'm listening...
Christine: I think, what I feel, and I
think we all have the right to our own destiny as individuals.
Jones: Right...
Christine: And I think I have a right
to choose mine and everybody else has the right to choose theirs.
Jones: Mm-hmm
Christine: You know...
Jones: Mm-hmmm. I'm not criticizing; I'm not
governing ... What's that?
Unwoman (in
background): She talks like she wants to leave us,
well; she can go ahead ... they're our individual lives, that's what you're
saying.
Christine: That's right.
Jones: That's today, that's what twenty people said
today ... with their lives.
Christine: I think that I still have
the right to my own opinion.
Jones: I'm not taking it from you. I'm not taking it
from you.
Unman: Christine, you're only standing here because
he was here in the first place. So I don't know what you're talking about
having an individual life. Your life has been extended to the day that you're
standing there because of him.
Jones: Despite this, she has as much right to speak
as anybody else, too. What did you say, Louvie (ph.)? Well, you will regret
that this very day if you don't die. You'll regret it if you don't ... that you
don't die. You'll regret it.
Christine: (few words inaudible) ... A
man who saved so many people?
Jones: I saved them.
I saved them and I made my confession. I made my manifestation and the
world was ready ... not ready for me.
Paul said, "I was a man born out of due season." I've been
born out of due season just like all we are and the best testimony we can make
is to leave this God-damn world. ... (cheers from crowd)
Unwoman: She must be scared to die.
Christine: I'm not talking to her. Will
you let her or let me talk?
Jones: You talk.
Christine: Would you make her sit down
and let me talk while I'm on the floor or let her talk?
Jones...
proper to tell your leader what to do. It really isn't. I've listened to you.
You asked me about Russia.
I'm right now making a call to Russia.
What more do you suggest? I'm listening to you. If Russia gives me one slight bit of
encouragement, just now instructed her to go there and do that.
Unwoman: You won't do no fuckin' good
in Russia,
God-damn it ... (pause).
Unman: All right, now everybody hold it, we didn't
come ... hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it...
Jones...
much longer to maintain. (Crowd: That's right) To lay down your burdens, I'm gonna lay down
my burdens, down by the riverside, should we lay them down here ... inside of Guyana.
What's the difference? No man didn't take our lives, right now, he hadn't taken
it, but when they start parachuting out of the air, they'll shoot some of our
innocent babies. I'm not ... I don't want to see this, Christine. They gotta
shoot me to get through to some of these people. I'm not letting it take Jjara.
Can you let them take Jjara? (Crowd: No-no!)
Christine: You wanna see John die?
Jones: What's that?
Christine: You mean you wanna see John,
the little one, who's keep...
Jones: I want to keep ... (crowd - loud background
noises, inaudible) ... peace, peace, peace, peace, peace, peace, peace.
Unwoman: Christine, are you saying
that you think he thinks more of them than other children here?
Jones: John, John...
Unwoman: That's what you're saying
Jones: Do you actually, do you think I would put
John's life above others? If I put John's life above others I wouldn't be
standing with Jjara. I'd send John out; he could go out on the driveway
tonight.
Christine: ... he's young ... they're
young.
Jones: I know, but he's no different to me than any
of these children here. He's just one of my children. I don't prefer one above
another. I don't prefer him above Jjara. I can't do that. I can't separate
myself from your actions or his actions.
Unwoman: No way.
Jones: If you'd done something wrong. I'd stand with
you If they wanted to come and get you they'd have to take me.
Unman: Well, we're all ready to go. If you tell us we
have to give our lives now, we're ready. I'm pretty sure all the rest of
sisters and brothers are with me.
Jones: For months I've tried to keep this thing from
happening but I now see it's the will ... it's the will of Sovereign Being that
this happened to us. That we lay down our lives to protest in what's being
done. That we lay down our lives to protest in what's being done. The criminality of people, the cruelty of
people. Who walked out of here today? Did you notice who walked out? Mostly
white people, mostly white people walked. I'm so grateful for the ones that
didn't, those who knew who they are.
There's, there's no point, there's no point to - this. We are born
before our time. They won't accept us. And I don't think we should sit here and
take any more time for our children to be endangered and we give them our
children, then our children will suffer forever.
Christine: ... different right here.
Jones: I have no quarrel with you coming up, I like
you. I personally like you very much.
Christine: People get hostile when you
try to...
Jones: Oh well, some people do. But then... some
people do. Put it that way. I'm not hostile. You had to be honest and you
stayed. If you wanted to to run, you'd have had to run with them because
anybody coulda run today, they would have wanted to. I know you're not a runner
and your life is precious to me. It's as precious as John's. And I don't ...
what I do, I do with weight and justice and judgment. I've weighed it against all evidence.
Christine: And that's all I've got to
say.
Jones: And what comes, folks, what comes now?
Unman (in
background): Everybody hold it Sit down right here ...
(loud background noises, agitated)... Stay seated...
Jones
(incoherent sounds): Say peace, say peace, say peace, say
peace ... what comes, don't let... take Dviyer on down to the middle(?) of the
east house. Take Dwyer on down...
Unwoman: Everybody be quiet, please.
Unman...
show you got some respect for our lives.
Unman: Let me sit down, sit down, sit down.
Jones: I know ... Mmmm-mmmm-mmm. I tried so very,
very hard. I've been trying over here to see what can, what can happen
(inaudible) who is it (unintelligible voices) ... Get Dwyer out of here before
something happens to him ... (pause) ... Dwyer.
Umman: Jjara?
Jones: I'm not talking about Jjara, I said Dwyer.
Ain't nobody gonna take Jjara, I'm not letting 'em take Jjara (pause) ...
Gather in, folks, its easy, its easy. Yes, my love ... (pause)...
Unwoman: At one time I felt just like
Christine felt. But after today I don't feel anything because the biggest
majority of the people that left here were white and I know it really hurt my
heart because
Jones: Broke your heart, didn't it?
Unwoman: It broke my heart to think
that all of these years that the white people have been with us and they're not
a part of us. So we might as well end it now because I don't see...
Unman: Quit talking the Congressman has been murdered
... (pause, Singing and music)...
Unknown voice in background: It's
all over...
Jones: It's all over, all over ... what a legacy,
what a legacy. But the Red Brigade's the only one that's ever made any sense
anyway. They invaded our privacy, they came into our home, they followed us
6,000 miles away. The Red Brigade showed them justice; the Congressman's dead
... please get us some medication. It's simple, it's simple, there's no
convulsions with it, it's just simple, just please get it before it's too late.
The GDF will be here. I tell you get
moving, get moving, get moving ... (unintelligible words) ... (voice in
background: No, no, no, no ...)
Jones: Don't be afraid to die ... (unintelligible
words) ... if these people land out here, they'll torture some of our children
here. They'll torture our people, they'll torture our seniors. We cannot have
this. (crowd: right, right) ... are you gonna separate
yourself from whoever shot the Congressman?
I don't know who shot him ... (crowd: no, no, no, hell no.) Speak your piece and those had a right to go
and they had a right to ... how many are dead? Oh, God almighty, God
almighty…Mmmm?
Unman: Patty Parks is dead.
Jones: Patty Parks is dead?
Unwoman: ... you and the others to
endure long enough in a safe place, to write about the goodness of Jim Jones...
Jones: I don't know how in the world they're ever
gonna write about us. It's just too late, it's too late. The congress is dead,
the congress lays dead, many of our traitors are dead, they're all laying out
there dead. Mmmm? ... (crowd: good, good) I didn't but, but my people
did. My people did. They're my people ... (crowd: right, right) ... and
they've been provoked too much ... (crowd: right, right) ... They've been provoked
too much. What's happened here's been too ... it's been an act of provocation
Unwoman: They did it themselves ...
they did it...
Christine: If it's anyways possible to
have them to Ted something to take him, I'm satisfied. O.K.?
Jones: What's that?
Christine: I said, if it's any way you
can do, if you can have them to give Ted something so that he won’t have to let
him go, too, O.K.? And I'm satisfied.
Jones: Yes, that's fine ... Ted, yes, yes, yes...
Christine: 'cause I said I never wanted
to him to die ...-and I appreciate you for everything.
Jones: (unintelligible)
Unwoman: You are, you are the only,
you're the only and I appreciate ... (clapping in background)...
Jones: Please, please. Can we hasten, can we hasten
with that medication. You don't know what you’ve done ... (pause) ... I've
tried. (clapping in background) ... (unintelligible words) ... They saw it
happen and ran in the bush and dropped the machine guns, I never in my life ...
But there'll be more ... (music and humming in background). You've got to move.
Are you gonna get that medication here? You've got to move...
Unwoman: Hurry up!
Jones: Marsha, we got 40 minutes.
Unwoman: You have to move and the
people that are standing there in the aisle go stand the (unintelligible
words), so everybody get behind the table and back this way, O.K.? There's
nothing to worry about, so everybody keep calm and try and keep your children
calm. And the oldest children can help love the little children and reassure
them. They're not crying from pain. It's just a little bitter tasting but,
they're not crying out of any pain.
Annie McGowan, can I please see you back...
Unman…have
these things to do before I kill you. So let me tell you about it; it might
make a lot of you feel a little more comfortable. Sit down and be quiet, please.
One of the things that I used to do, I used to be a therapist. And the kind of
therapy that I did had to do with reincarnation and past life situations. And
every time anybody had the experience of going into a past life, I was
fortunate enough to farther, to be able to let them experience it all the way
through their death so to speak. And everybody was so happy when they made that
step to the other side.
Jones: When you accept it ... you can do but step
that way, it's the only way to step. (sound of babies crying in the background
music). Be assured in that choice is not ours now. It's out of our hands.
Unman: Would you have a body that's been cripple,
suddenly you have the kind of body that you want to have (babies crying in the
background and voice in the background saying: calm the children ...
something to give them a little rest, a little rest. Calm the children ...)
Unman: It feels good, it never felt so good, family,
I tell yuh ... you've never felt so good as how that feels ... (babies screaming)
...
Jones: And I do hope that those attorneys will stay
where they belong and don't come up here ... why they did?
Unman: What happened?
Jones: What is it? ... Did what? ... Hard. It's hard, its hard. ... only first, only at
first is it hard. It's hard only at first. Living, you, you’re looking at
death. It only looks ... living is much, much more difficult. Raising up every
morning, and not knowing what's going to be the night's bringing. It's much
more difficult. It's much more difficult.
Unwoman: I just want to say something
to everyone that I see that is standing around and are crying. This is nothing
to cry about. This is something we should all rejoice about. We can be happy
about this. They always told us that we
should cry when we’re coming into this world, but when we're leaving and we're
leaving it peaceful ... I tell you, you should be happy about this. I was just
thinking about Jim Jones. He just has suffered and suffered and suffered. He is
the only god and he don't even have a chance to enjoy his death here. (clapping
and shouting) ... I wanted to say one more thing. This is one thing I want to
say. That you that've gone and there's many more here. He's still -- the way,
that's not all of us, that's not all yet. There's just a few that have
died. A chance to get ... to the one
that they could tell ... their lies to. So and I say I'm looking at so many
people crying, I wish you would not cry and just thank Father, just thank him.
I tell you about ... (clapping and shouting) ... I've been here, uh, one year
and nine months and I never felt better in my life. Not in San Francisco, but until I came to Jonestown.
I enjoy this life. I had a beautiful life. I don't see nothing that I should be
crying about. We should be happy. At least I am. Let's all he the same
(shouting, clapping and music in background)
Unwoman: ... Wouldn't be alive today.
I'd just like to thank Dad 'cause he was the only one that stood up for me when
I needed him and thank you, Dad.
Unwoman: (unintelligible words) and
I'm glad you're my brothers and sisters and I'm glad to be here ... O.K.
Jones: Please ... for God's sake, let's get on with
that we've lived ... we've lived as no other people have lived and loved. We've
had as much of this world that you're gonna get. Let's just.be done with it.
Let's be done with the agony of it ... (clapping and shouting in the
background). It's far, far harder to have to watch you every day die slowly and
from the time you were a child to the time you get gray you're dying.
I'm sure that they'll pay
for it, they'll pay for it. This is a revolutionary suicide. This is not a
self-destructive suicide. So they'll pay for this. They brought this upon us
and they'll pay for that. I leave that destiny to them (children crying in
background) ... who wants to go with their child has a right to go with their
child. I think it's humane. I wanna go ... I want to see you go, though. They
can take me and do with-me whatever they want to do. I wanta see you go. I don't wanna see you go through this hell no
more. No more, no more, no more. (babies crying in background) We’re trying.
If everybody will relax. The best thing you do to relax and you will
have no problems. You'll have no problems with this thing if you just relax.
Unknown
man: ... the children here
... a great deal because of Jim Jones. And, the way the children are, laying
dead now, I'd rather see them lay like that than to see them have to die like
the Jews did, which was pitiful anyhow. And I'd just like to thank Dad for
giving us life and also death, and I appreciate the fact the way our children
are going because, like Dad said, when they came in, what they're going to do
to our children, they're going to massacre our children. And also the ones they
take, captive, they're gonna just let them grow up and be dummies like they
want them to be and not grow up to be Socialist like the one and only Jim
Jones. So I'd like to thank Dad for the opportunity for letting Jonestown be,
not what it could be, but what Jonestown is. Thank you, Dad. (clapping).
Jones: it's not to be feared. It is not to be
feared. It's a friend, it's a friend.
You're sitting there. Show your love for one another ... (unintelligible words)
... let's get calm, let's get calm, let's get calm. (babies screaming in
background) ... to us ... we had nothing we could do, we can't, we can't
separate ourselves from our own people. (pause, children crying in background)
... For twenty years laying in some old rotten nursing home ... (pause) ...
taken us through all these anguished years. They took us and put us in chains
and that's nothing. ... (stuttering) ... there's no comparison to that, to
this. They've robbed us of our land, and they've taken us and driven us until
we tried to find ourselves ... we tried to find a new beginning, but it's too
late. You can't separate yourself from your brother and your sister. No way I'm
gonna do it. I refuse. I don't know who fired the shot, I don't know who killed
the Congressman. But as far as I'm concerned, I killed him. You understand what
I'm saying? I killed him. He had no business coming. I told him not to come… (long pause) …die
with respect, die with a degree of dignity. Lay down your life with dignity.
Don't lay down with tears and agony. It's nothing to death, just like Max said.
It's just stepping over into another plane. Don't, don't be this way. Stop this
hysterics ... This is not the way for people who are socialistic Communists to
die ... no way for us to die. We must die with some dignity...
Unman: That’s right (pause)...
Jones...
soon we'll have no choice. Now we have some choice. You think they're gonna
send, allow this to be done and allow us to get by with this you must be insane ... But children, it's just
something to put you to rest ... Oh, God ... (babies crying in background) ...
mother, mother, mother, mother, mother, please, mother, please, please, please,
don't, don't do this, don't do this ... lay down your life with your child, but
don't do this...
Unwoman: ... doing all of this for
you...
Jones: Free at last (clapping)…please keep your
emotions down, keep your emotions down ... children, it will not hurt if you
will be, if you'll be quiet, if you'll be quiet (children crying in background,
tramming, music) ... pause ... it's never been done before you say? It's been
done by every tribe in history, every tribe facing annihilation. All the
Indians in the Amazon are doing it now. They refuse to bring any babies into
the world. They kill every child that comes into the world, because they don't
want to live in this kind of a world. So be patient, be patient ... death is
... I tell you I don't care how many screams you hear, I don't care how many
anguished cries ... death is a million times preferable to ten more days of
this life. If you knew what was ahead of
you, if you knew what was ahead of you, you'd be glad to be stepping over
tonight. Death, death, death is common to people ... and the Eskimos; they take
death in their stride. Let's, let's be dignified. If you'll quit telling them
they're dying, if you adults will stop some of this nonsense ... Adults,
adults, adults, I call on you to stop this nonsense. I call on you to quit
exciting your children when all they're doing is going to a quiet rest. I call
on you to stop this now. If you have any respect Are we black, proud and
Socialist, or what are we? Now atop this nonsense, don't carry this on any
more, you're exciting your children. (Crowd: right, right.) All over and it's good. No, no sorrow that
it's all over. I'm glad it's over ... Hurry, hurry my children, hurry. All I
say, let's not fall in the hands of the enemy. Hurry, my children. Hurry ...
there are seniors out here that I'm concerned about. Hurry, I don't want to
leave my seniors to this mess. Quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly ...
sisters, good knowing you ... no more pain now ... no more pain I said, Al, no
more pain. Jim Cobb is laying on the airfield dead at this moment ... (cheers,
shouting and clapping) ... remember though this Oliver woman said she, she'd
come over and kill me if her son wouldn't have stopped her. These, these are
people that are peddlers of hate. All we're doing is laying down our life.
We're not letting them take our life. We're laying down our lives ...
(background voices) ... not taking their lives. We just want peace.
Unman: All I'd like to say is that my so-called
parents are filled with so much hate (Background voice saying, "O.K., stop
this stop this, stop this, children, stop this crying, all of you.") ...
in countries. I think you people out
here should think about how your relatives was and be glad about, that the
children are being to rest and all I can say is that I thank Dad for making me
strong to stand with it all and make me ready for it. Thank you. ...
Jones: All that's, let me - All they're doing is
taking a drink, that takes, to go to sleep ... That's what death is, sleep ...
I know, but I'm tired of it all.
Unwoman...
loving thing we could have ever done, the most loving thing all of us could
have done and it's been a pleasure walking with all of you in this
revolutionary struggle. No other way I would rather go than to give my life for
Socialism, Communism and I thank Dad very, very much.
Unwoman: That, that Dad's love and mercy, goodness and
kindness and bring us to this land of freedom, his love, his mother was the
advanced, the advanced guide to Socialism and his love, his mercy will go on
forever, unto the (unintelligible word) ...
Jones: (unintelligible words) ... Where's the vat,
the vat, the vat? Where's the vat with the green C thing? CN.
Unwoman: Love is to go on
(unintelligible words) ... and thank you, Dad.
Jones: The vat, with the green CN please. Bring it
here so the adults can begin ... beg you, don't, don't, fail to follow my
advice, you'll be sorry ... you'll be sorry ... (unintelligible word) ... that
we'll do it than that they do it ... (voices in the background saying, that's
right, that's right) ... Must trust, you have to step across ... We used to
sing:
“this world, this world's not our home.” Well, it sure isn't. ...
We were saying, it sure
wasn't ... Really doesn't want, you're telling me. All he's doing is what we’ll
tell him. Assure these…can some people
assure these children of the relaxation of stepping over to the next plane? That'd
set an example for others. You set 1,000 people who say, “We don’t like the
world is.” (Crowd: That's right, that's right)...
(unintelligible words) ... take our life from us, we laid it down, we got
tired. We didn't commit suicide. We committed an act of revolutionary suicide
protesting the conditions of an inhumane world.”...
(end of Jones talk, music
playing, and then silence).
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