tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-210656342024-03-13T10:14:12.511+10:30The Continuing Adventures Of Your Own Personal JesusYour Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.comBlogger228125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-46483778151136762402019-08-03T07:48:00.001+09:302019-08-03T07:48:32.422+09:30#315: The Bitch Is Back<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Guess what? Contrary to popular belief, and probably the wishes of a few, I ain't dead, yet. Still a long, long way to go. Now that the shackles have been removed, I am free to write about anything I so choose.<br />
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Well, within reason, of course. Naturally I won't be naming names or giving out any identifying details, that'd be wrong. Wouldn't it? Yes. Yes it would. And rather unfair as well. But, relax, sit back and be safe and secure in the knowledge that not only am I back, but I am raring to go.<br />
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Expect some dirt, some gossip and more bitchiness to come over the next few days, weeks, months, years, millennium.<br />
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Sp, bitch, please!Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-88009943142363983142014-11-30T07:49:00.001+10:302014-11-30T07:49:55.282+10:30#314: Power To The People<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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That was amazing. I have not followed an election as closely with as much interest since the 2007 Federal Election. Last night's Victorian State Election was as exciting as they come, for all the same reasons as the 2007 Federal effort - because it was the PEOPLE who led the way - not the incredibly biased media or the large corporations - and rightly so.<br />
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The Murdoch media did it's best to call the result for the Liberals. They believed that, by running a negative campaign, that they were a lock, all they had to do was turn up. But they didn't take into consideration the complete an utter disgust that the average Australian has for the current Federal Government, and that this disgust will impact upon State politics.<br />
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It was interesting that the Victorian Liberals claim that this election had nothing to do with Federal policies, yet they distanced themselves from the power brokers of the current Cabinet. I counted one appearance from the PM, nothing from the Treasurer an the rest. In fact only Julie Bishop popped up and that was a token effort.<br />
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My hope now is that this very powerful message is heard in Canberra and things start changing for the better. The reality is that it simply won't as the Liberals have Rupert Murdoch and his media empire on their side, which will spin this crushing defeat into a State issue and not an election run on Federal issues. It was both. The people in Victoria who booted the Liberals out were just as frustrated and annoyed by decisions made in the Federal arena as they were the many State issues (the East-West City Link, Arts funding, rogue MP Geoff Shaw). The truth is Tony Abbott now faces the very, very real prospect of being a one-term PM (just as Dennis Naptime was a one-term Premier). But, the way things are going, with the infighting over dumped policies and the inability of ministers to agree on policies, he may not even last that long. <br />
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The Liberal Party, a party that has prided itself for being such a strong, united party for so long, is now rapidly imploding beneath it's own hubris. For far too long they have treated the people of Australia with total and utter contempt, heaping lies upon broken promises and expecting that all will be forgotten come the next election in just over eighteen months time. And always remember, as was stated last night, 'Corporations donate, people vote'. As an individual your vote counts, you can make a difference. On your own, in an election, you may think that you have no power, but when millions feel the same as you do, together you have the power to toppled entire governments.Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-15314892226514978702014-10-18T08:32:00.001+10:302014-10-18T08:32:35.616+10:30#313: Six Months In A Leaky Boat<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Ahhhh yes, the new policy by the Liberal/National Party, as designed by the Prime Minister that nobody wants Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison, the (Anti) Immigration Minister. Welcome to the New Australia, a throwback to the Menzies Era of white people only.<br />
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In short, if you're <u>not </u>from England, white, preferably a racist who believes in all things English (ie: peers, lordships, knights, royalty etc etc) and can speak 'proper' English (that is, you have a 'posh' accent and can't say your 'r's pwopely) then you're just not welcome. Full stop. Stay away. The LNP don't care what violence, persecution or tyranny that you might be fleeing; they'll simply send you right back to where you came from, but only after telling the people you're fleeing from your name, your details and why you were running. While the rest of the world will, rightly, label you an Asylum Seeker, the LNP will call you an Illegal Immigrant.<br />
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But, if you're from England and you fly in then you're more than welcome to overstay your tourist visa, ignore the conditions of your visa and get a job that pays cash only (so you don't need to worry about taxes), exploit our medical system at no cost to you, but at a cost to the Australian taxpayer, go and get hands outs in the form of emergency money from Centerlink, emergency accommodation from various State run Housing authorities and generally do what you want. The LNP will call you a decent fellow instead of calling you what you really are - an Illegal Immigrant. An exception can be made for certain European countries and some Americans (North only - not those pesky South Americans). But, be sure that you can speak English, are a God-Fearing Christian and the more racist you are, the better. And no darkies. The LNP wants it's new Australians to be whiter than white, thank you very much.<br />
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And you fucking Russians can stay home too. Two Ton Tone is going to beat your man up, if he gets the chance.Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-4460143735665765972014-07-15T08:30:00.001+09:302014-07-15T08:30:42.774+09:30312: Crim du JourA new series, in which I post real things that criminals get up to, taken from official court records.<div><br></div><div>Today's Crim du Jour comes to us from Mount Gambier, South Australia.</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The facts of the offences are relatively straightforward. On 8 December last year you went to a car yard in Millicent to steal petrol. It was in the late evening. You punctured the petrol tanks of two vehicles and were in the process of collecting the fuel from the tanks when you lit a cigarette and an explosion and then a fire took place."</span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Result - 8 months in the Big House and 3rd degree burns all over the body. That's a winner!</span></div>Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com0Electric Circus 17 Crippen Pl, Adelaide-34.921822 138.595107tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-90275514543114066232014-07-05T09:11:00.002+09:302014-07-05T09:11:55.259+09:30311: Crown Court R ‐v‐ Rolf Harris. Sentencing remarks of Mr Justice Sweeney<div class="Default" style="text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Rolf Harris </b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Sentencing remarks of Mr Justice Sweeney </b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>4 July 2014 </b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Rolf Harris
you are 84 years old. You have no previous criminal convictions or cautions
recorded against you. You are no longer in the best of health. For well over 50
years you have been a popular entertainer and television personality of
international standing – with a speciality in children’s entertainment. You are
also an artist of renown. You have been the recipient of a number of honours
and awards over the years. You have done many good and charitable works and
numerous people have attested to your positive good character. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">But the verdicts of the jury show that in the period from
1969 to 1986 you were also a sex offender ‐committing 12 offences of indecent
assault on 4 victims who were variously aged between 8 and 19 at the time.
There were a number of aggravating features. You took advantage of the trust
placed in you, because of your celebrity status, to commit the offences against
three of your victims ‘A’ (Count 1), ‘B’ (Count 2) and Tonya Lee (Counts 1012).
All your offences in relation to ‘C’ (Counts 3‐9) were committed in breach of
the trust that her parents had placed in you, and two of them took place in her
own home. In every case the age gap between you and your victim was a very
considerable one. You clearly got a thrill from committing the offences whilst
others were present or nearby. Whilst such others did not realise what you were
doing, their presence added to the ordeal of your victims. It is clear from the
evidence that what you did has had a significant adverse effect on each victim,
and particularly so in relation to ‘C’ who suffered severe psychological injury
in consequence. None of the victims had the confidence to complain at the time.
Each, including Tonya Lee, and especially ‘C’, showed considerable courage in
eventually coming forward and in giving evidence. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">You have shown no remorse for your crimes at all. Your
reputation now lies in ruins, you have been stripped of your honours but you
have no one to blame but yourself. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">On Count 1
you indecently assaulted ‘A’ in 1969 (when she was aged 8 and you were aged
39). You did so when you made an appearance at the Leigh Park Community Centre
in Havant, and she approached you for your autograph. Others were present.
Taking advantage of your celebrity status, you twice put your hand up her skirt
between her legs and touched her vagina over her clothing. In her Victim Impact
Statement ‘A’ states, which I<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">am
sure is true, that you took her childhood innocence ‐for which she blamed
herself and became an angry child and teenager, unable to express herself and
unable to trust men. She continued “I have carried what Rolf Harris did to me
for most of my life, it took away my childhood, it affected every aspect of my
life from the point he assaulted me. Something that he did to me for fun that
caused me physical and mental pain for his own pleasure and then probably
forgot about as quickly as he did it, has had a catastrophic effect on me…..” <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">On Count 2 I have no doubt that you indecently assaulted
‘B’ in July 1978 (when she was aged 16. and you were aged 48). You did so on
the day that you took part in Star Games on Jesus Green in Cambridge. You were
clowning around and took advantage of the fact that she was somewhat awestruck.
Again others were present. You groped her bottom, squeezing her left buttock a
number of times. In her Victim Impact Statement, which I am also sure is true,
she says amongst other things “…Rolf Harris took advantage of me and made me
feel ashamed. That an adult man could do what he did to me made me feel so
powerless. He treated me like a toy that he played with for his own pleasure
with absolutely no regard for what he was inflicting and then getting on with
his life as if nothing had happened….”. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">‘C’ and her
family began living across the road from you and your family in Sydenham in the
mid 1960s. She and your daughter Bindi became the very best of friends. In late
1978 when ‘C’ was aged 13 and you were aged 48 you were allowed by Jo’s parents
to take her on holiday with your wife and Bindi to Canada, Hawaii and
Australia. Her parents trusted you to look after their daughter and continued
to do so after the end of the holiday. I have no doubt that you fancied ‘C’ –
even at that young age. I make clear that I am not sentencing you in relation
to what happened on that holiday, but I am sure, in the light of the jury’s
verdicts, that ‘C’ gave truthful evidence as to what occurred, and that it was
the indecent assaults that you carried out on that holiday that emboldened you
to commit offences against her in this country thereafter. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">On Count 3 you indecently assaulted ‘C’ in the latter part
of 1980 by which time she was aged 15 and you were aged 50. You had moved to
Bray, and were visiting the ‘Cs’ with your wife. You committed the offence in
breach of trust, and it was further aggravated by being committed in ‘C’’s own
home. You left your wife and ‘C’’s parents downstairs and you went up to Jo’s
bedroom on the top floor of the house. You spat on the fingers of one hand, put
that hand down her jeans and knickers, and digitally penetrated her vagina. The
episode lasted for about a minute until she managed to get away. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">On Count 4
you indecently assaulted ‘C’ after Xmas 1980 when she was still aged 15 and you
were aged 50. Again you were visiting the ‘C’s with your wife. Again you
committed the offence in breach of trust and it was further aggravated by being
committed in Jo’s own home. You left your wife and ‘C’’s parents downstairs
whilst you went up to the TV room on the first floor where ‘C’ was. You spat on
the fingers of one hand, put that hand down her dungarees and knickers and
digitally penetrated her vagina. You continued for up to a minute until she
managed to get away. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Counts 5
& 6 arose from a single incident in the period between the autumn of 1980
and Easter 1981 when ‘C’ was aged 15 and you were aged 50. ‘C’ was visiting
Bindi at Bray and was permitted by her parents to stay – sleeping in one of two
single beds in Bindi’s room. On this occasion after Bindi had got up, and
whilst she and/or your wife were in the house, and again in breach of trust,
you went into the bedroom where ‘C’ was still in bed. You took her pants down,
spat on the fingers of one of your hands, and digitally penetrated her vagina<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">(Count
5), then you took off your glasses bent down to her vagina and started licking
it (Count 6) ‐continuing until she closed her legs and pushed you away. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Counts 7
& 8 arose from another single incident in the same period between the
autumn of 1980 and Easter 1981– and thus when ‘C’ was still aged 15 and you
were aged 50. Again ‘C’ was visiting Bindi at Bray and was sleeping in one of
the two single beds in Bindi’s room. On this occasion, whilst Bindi was still
asleep in her bed and ‘C’ was in the other bed you entered the room, again in
breach of trust, pulled ‘C’’s pants down to her ankles, spat on the fingers of
one hand and digitally penetrated her vagina (Count 7), then you licked her
vagina again keeping an eye on Bindi (who was still asleep) as you did so
(Count 8) ‐continuing until ‘C’ closed her legs and pushed you away. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">On Count 9 you indecently assaulted ‘C’ in 1984 when she was aged
19 and you were aged <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">54. On this occasion she and her mother were visiting your
wife at Bray. ‘C’ was using the indoor swimming pool when you appeared in your
swimming trunks and got in. Your wife and Mrs ‘C’ (who trusted you) withdrew to
another part of the house whereupon you touched ‘C’’s breasts and then put one
of your hands down her bikini bottom and digitally penetrated her vagina. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Whilst I do not sentence you in relation to what you did
to ‘C’ in the decade that followed that offence, I am sure that offences
against her continued until 1994. Indeed the point is made on your behalf that
you have not committed any further offences since then. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">In her Victim
Impact Statement, which I am sure is true, ‘C’ says, among other things, “…The
attacks that happened have made me feel dirty, grubby and disgusting. The whole
sordid saga has traumatised me. I have panic attacks and suffer from anxiety.
The effects of the abuse have been with me for many years. I started drinking
at the age of 14 to 15 years old. This was to block out the effects of what he
was doing to me. This had an effect on my relationship with my parents and
people close to me. The slightest thing would upset me, I would get so angry,
my reaction would be so disproportionate and over the top. As a young girl I
had aspirations to have a career, settle down and have a family. However, as a
direct result of his actions, this has never materialised. I have never had a
meaningful relationship whilst sober. I have also never been able to hold down
a job. This was down to the need to block out what he had done to me through
drink. Rolf Harris had a hold over me that made me a quivering wreck….He made
me feel like a sexual object. He used and abused me to such an extent that it
made me feel worthless….. I suffered abuse at the hands of a person who thought
he could get away with it. He made me feel that I would not be believed and as
a result I suffered in silence. This has had a detrimental effect on my life
and health outcome….”. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I have no doubt, in view of the evidence given at trial by
‘C’, and by the doctors and counsellors who treated her, that it was your
crimes against her that resulted in her becoming an alcoholic for many years
with all that that entailed, and that thus (as I have already touched on) you
caused her severe psychological harm <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">On Count 10 you indecently assaulted
Tonya Lee on 31 May 1986 – when she was aged 15 and you were aged 56. She was
one of the Shopfront Theatre Group from Sydney, Australia who were on a tour of
the UK at that time. You knew the lady who was in charge of the Group, and at
her invitation had attended the Group’s last performance on the tour which was
in South London. Thereafter you accompanied them to a public house called the
Queen’s Arms. It was there, in the presence of others, that you committed the
offence.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Taking
advantage of you celebrity status you got Tonya to sit on your knee, put your
hand on her thigh under her skirt and moved it up to her vagina over her tights
and knickers and fondled her there until she managed to make an excuse and fled
to the Ladies toilet. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">You followed
her to the vicinity of the toilet and waited outside. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Counts 11 & 12 arose from a single incident after she
came out. Others, although not present, were nearby. You got her in a forceful
bear hug, put one hand down her top and into her bra and played with one of her
breasts for about 30 seconds, fondling and squeezing it (Count 11). Then,
really quickly, you moved the same hand under her skirt, down her tights and
knickers and quickly digitally penetrated her vagina (Count 12). You then
stopped and walked away. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 4.25pt; margin-top: 0cm;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">In an email from Australia Tonya Lee writes that what you
did to her was a turning point in her life that she has never recovered from.
She says, among other things, that “…What Rolf Harris took from me was my self
belief and more so the ability to feel safe. I have never felt safe since. I
live in a constant state of anxiety”.., She goes on to describe the
difficulties that she and her children have faced since and continues “…What Mr
Harris took from me was my very essence. I believe that it was for Mr Harris a
forgettable moment but it was something for me that I have never moved on from
and will never forget…” <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.55pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 40.25pt; margin-top: 0cm;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I proceed upon the basis, as both sides have invited me
to, that (consistent with her evidence at trial) your offences were not the
sole cause of Tonya Lee’s problems <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">It was in the
mid 1990s, and after it had stopped, that ‘C’ then still an alcoholic, finally
told her family what you had done to her. In 1997 she confronted you and you
sent that letter to her father in the hope of avoiding or minimising the
consequences. You succeeded at that stage, but only because she was in no fit
state to face making an official complaint. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">However,
following her brave recovery from alcoholism, and after extensive counselling
and support from her family, it was ‘C’’s eventual complaint in the autumn of
2012 which began the series of events that led to your prosecution and
conviction. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 4.25pt; margin-top: 0cm;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I apply the approach to sentencing historic sexual
offences set out in Annex B of the current Sentencing Council Definitive
Guideline, and have also considered the guidance given in the judgment of the
Court of Appeal in <i>Attorney General’s Reference (No.38 of 2013)(R v Stuart
Hall) </i>[2014] 1 Cr.App.R. (S.) 61 <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The maximum
sentence on Count 1 is one of 5 years’ imprisonment, on each of Counts 2‐9 it
is one of 2 year’s imprisonment, and on each of Counts 10‐12 it is one of 10
years’ imprisonment. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM2">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">With the exception of Counts 10 & 11 the equivalent offences
today attract significantly higher maximum sentences. For example on Count 1
the equivalent offence today is sexual assault of a child which carries a
maximum of 14 years’ imprisonment and would be likely to involve a starting
point of around one year’s imprisonment. On Counts 3,4,5,7,9&12 the
equivalent offence today is assault by penetration which carries a maximum
sentence of life imprisonment and would be likely, to involve a starting point
(given the severity of the psychological damage to ‘C’) of around 8 years’
imprisonment on Counts 3,4,5,7, & 9 and a starting point of around 4 years’
imprisonment on Count 12<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM2" style="page-break-before: always;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">On your behalf I am asked to take
into account a number of matters in mitigation, including the following: <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="Default">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> (1) With the exception of ‘C’
the offences were brief and opportunistic. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="Default">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> (2) The fact that you have no
previous convictions and have led an upright life since 1994 -albeit it is
accepted that that must be tempered by the reality, underlined in the <i>Attorney
General’s Reference </i>(above), that you got away with your offending for
years. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="Default">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> (3) The fact that you have a
good side, that there are many people who know you who speak well of you, and
that over many years you have dedicated yourself to a number of charitable
causes. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="Default">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> (4) The fact that you are not
in the best of health, as attested to in the report of Dr Fertleman, and that
therefore, although capable of serving a prison sentence, it will be
particularly tough on you. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="Default">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> (5) The fact that your wife,
who you help in looking after, has various health problems, as attested to in
the report of Dr Mitchell‐Fox. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="Default">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> (6) That you should be enabled
to spend your twilight years with your family. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="Default">
<br /></div>
<div class="CM10" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 26.85pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I have no
doubt, despite your age and the other matters relied upon in mitigation on your
behalf, that given the seriousness of the offences and particularly those in
relation to ‘C’) and the extent of the aggravating features that I have
identified only an immediate custodial sentence is appropriate for each.
Sensibly, no argument to the contrary has been put forward on your behalf. Some
of the sentences will be consecutive ‐in passing them I bear firmly in mind the
principle of totality and have reduced a number of the sentences that I would
otherwise have passed accordingly. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The sentences
that I impose are as follows: <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 1: 9
months’ imprisonment. </span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 2: 6 months’ imprisonment consecutive. </span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 3: 15
months’ imprisonment consecutive </span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 4: 15 months’ imprisonment concurrent </span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 5: 15 months’ imprisonment concurrent </span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 6: 12 months imprisonment
concurrent </span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 7: 15 months’ imprisonment consecutive </span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 8: 12 months’
imprisonment concurrent </span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 9: 12 months’ imprisonment consecutive </span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 10:
9 months’ imprisonment concurrent </span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 11 9 months imprisonment concurrent</span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Count 12 12 months’ imprisonment consecutive <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The total
sentence is therefore one of 5 years and nine months’ imprisonment <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.55pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 26.75pt; margin-top: 0cm;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Unless released earlier, you will serve half that sentence
when you will be released on licence for the remainder of the sentence. Should
you breach the terms of that licence, including by the commission of further
offences, you will be liable to recall. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Your convictions
mean that you are automatically subject to the notification requirements of the
Sexual Offences Act 2003 and you will also be considered under the provisions
of the Safeguarding Vulnerable Groups Act 2006<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt; page-break-before: always;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">In
my view it is not appropriate for me to make any awards of compensation. The
issues involved are too complex and the information before me insufficient for
me to be able to properly do so. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="CM9" style="line-height: 13.4pt; margin-bottom: 13.6pt;">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">You will
however pay the costs of the prosecution in such sum as may be agreed or
assessed in due course. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I order that a copy of the medical report from Dr Fertleman
be provided to the Prison Service for their information.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-48782500690977995422014-05-17T10:47:00.001+09:302014-05-17T10:47:19.526+09:30#310: Tony The Toothless Tiger<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I just can't work people out. I'm seeing and reading comments from the same clowns who, a mere fortnight ago, were applauding Tony Abbott for his 'fine' work in keeping asylum seekers out of the country by putting them in a concentration camp on Manus Island and voted him in on his lies are now calling for his head because of the Budget.
I guess you have to give Abbott credit in one area - he's been consistent with his punishment of everyone and anyone who isn't wealthy. He said he'd 'stop the boats' - he hasn't, he just stopped telling people about them - and the masses roared in approval. He ran on a platform of xenophobia, hatred and lies, and the masses rushed out to vote for him. But now the shoe is on the other foot and people realise that Abbott isn't just the 'saviour' of the 'great white Australian way' and that he will be taking money from the unemployed, the elderly, the sick and poor, those same people who cheered him on and elected him are seeing the light. Tony has bitten them on the arse, as the majority of voters knew he would.
</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">If you supported Tony Abbott and the Liberal Party because of their racist and draconian policies, if you believed him both before, during and after the election when he stood there and said "No new taxes, no cuts to Education, Medicare, the ABC or pensions," and you voted for him and his party, then you're getting EXACTLY what you voted for. Those of us who voted against him, and have been rallying against him since the election (some at the cost of their own jobs and futures, as Tony hates anyone who points out his flaws) knew what was coming.
</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">This sums Abbott up perfectly. In the Budget he cut $25,000,000 from the Neo-Natal unit at Finders Hospital, but he approved $20,000,000 for a rugby team in Sydney to build a new ground. If only ONE child loses a life because of this cut then ask yourself, is watching rugby worth that baby's life? </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">He's cut education but approved $200,000,000 (that's TWO HUNDRED MILLION) to ensure that Chaplains are placed in every school. Not for counselling, but for theological reasons. Your kids, no matter what religion they are, will be educated in good, old fashioned Christianity. If your kids are at school, you'll have no say in it. Suck it up and deal with it. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">He's cut billions from health and education, but approved 24 billion dollars to buy war planes that don't exist and will be made in America. No jobs will be created in Australia with that 24 billion, but plenty will be created in the countries that will manufacture the parts and assemble them. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">He wants people to get a job, but has cut welfare and job creation to the point where a new underclass of homeless people will be present, and they'll all be under the age of 30. By telling people under the age of 30, by targeting those vulnerable people who have just left school and are trying to break into an already depressed job market that they'll have to wait 6 months before getting ANY kind of a benefit will increase crime rates. You can count on that. But Abbott doesn't care for that - he has to pay for those planes.
</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">And then there's the 'upgrades' to the Lodge, the official PM's residence where he lives. How much will that cost? He refuses to say. It's 'confidential'. You work it out.
</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Next time don't be so bloody keen to vote in an absolute liar. He's treating the Australian people in the exact same way that's treating asylum seekers - with sheer and utter contempt. You are beneath him. And if you think he's EVER going to keep a promise from now on, or if ANYONE associated with his party will, then you're a bigger fool than even you know.
</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span>
<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Ponder that at the next election.</span>Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-29426420601281172122014-03-26T10:34:00.001+10:302014-03-26T10:34:22.475+10:30#309: Don't Call Me WhiteyLots of debate about freedom of speech and how people have the right to be bigots. Good stuff too, anything that allows me to the freedom to upset Andrew Bolt without the fear of him demanding an apology for 'hurting his feelings' (the poor luv) the better. Trust me, if the proposed changes are adopted, then watch me really unleash!<div><br></div><div>Nothing is more worrying that giving someone like me the freedom to write whatever the hell I want to. This could get very, very messy.</div><div><br></div><div>In amongst the many debates, people have been quoting the famous frog philosopher, Voltaire. Now, allow me to help some of you out here. For the record, Voltaire never said, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend the death your right to say it." He also didn't say, "Yum yum, pigs bum, turn it into powder," either. As far as I know. So, who said it? </div><div><br></div><div>That'd be the relatively unknown Greek philosopher, Electrolux.</div><div><br></div><div>What Voltaire did say was, "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Now that quote gets perverted into the previous quote (no, not the pigs bum one) all too often by lazy students who did philosophy in their first year of Uni in order to impress girls. These are the same people who once debated me and insisted that Voltaire was a brand of vacuum cleaner.</div><div><br></div><div>Thus this has been brought to you today by the 'Voltaire Is Not A Vacuum Cleaner Appreciation Society."</div><div><br></div><div>Next up, Crowley Quotes. Do what thou wilt....</div>Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com0Holy Trinity Anglican Church 87 North Terrace, Adelaide-34.921769 138.595261tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-83670492682573191342014-03-21T09:06:00.001+10:302014-03-21T09:07:31.151+10:30#308: Say You, Say Me<p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a name="144e19f57077e24f_DocumentJudgmentName">EASLING v RANKINE</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a name="144e19f57077e24f_DocumentJudgmentNumber">[2014] SADC 40</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: start;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">This is a defamation action by which the plaintiff alleges that he was defamed by the defendant. At the time of the publications relied on by the plaintiff the defendant was a Member of the House of Assembly of the South Australian Parliament. She was also the Minister for Families and Communities; for Housing; for Ageing; and for Disability.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The publications relied on by the plaintiff occurred in October and November 2008.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The first occurred in the South Australian Parliament on 30 October 2008. On that day the defendant answered a question put to her by another member of the Parliament. Obviously, that publication was made inside Parliament.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The other two publications are said to have occurred on 12 and 14 November 2008. Those two publications were made outside of Parliament.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">All three publications are referred to in the plaintiff’s Second Statement of Claim. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The plaintiff commenced his proceedings in this matter on 17 March 2011. His Second Statement of Claim was filed on 1 November 2011.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In March 2012 the defendant sought from the court, amongst other orders, an order that the court permanently stay the plaintiff’s action. A learned Master of this court decided that application on 7 September 2012. He refused the defendant’s application for a permanent stay. His reasons for doing so were fully and carefully expressed. He set out the background to this action, the contentions of both parties on the application for a stay, the authorities relevant to the issues he had to decide, his findings and his conclusions. The Master’s views of the two emails upon which the plaintiff sought damages against the defendant (the publications made outside of Parliament) were expressed in this way:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In my view, this can be read as the defendant “justifying” or “standing by” the allegations she made (in Parliament). The defendant appears to suggest that there are documents to justify, if not to prove, the allegation she made. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">This is an expansion upon and justification of what was said there.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">There is a clear temporal and substantive connection between the October statement and the emails.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On the authorities, it seems to me that the emails are an effective repetition or adoption of the October statement, and hence of the imputations conveyed by the October statement.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The plaintiff’s case as pleaded relies on these extra parliamentary statements or publications, and does not necessitate reliance on the October statement which he concedes is protected by absolute privilege.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If I am wrong in coming to this conclusion, the issue should in any event go to the trial judge for consideration . . . as the plaintiff’s contention is clearly arguable.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The Master’s decision and mine require consideration of the privileges of Parliament, the judicial approach taken to extra-parliamentary publications, and the powers of a court to stay proceedings which intrude upon parliamentary privilege.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I have come to different conclusions to those reached by the learned Master. My conclusions are as follows.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">First, I am satisfied and find that as a matter of law and fact the defendant could not be said to have adopted, repeated, confirmed as true and republished by reference the statement she made in Parliament in causing the two emails to be sent on 12 and 14 November 2008 in a context which was not protected by privilege.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Secondly, it is, in my view, inconceivable that a trial on the current pleadings in this action could be conducted without both parties being in breach of the privileges of the Parliament of South Australia. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Thirdly, it is my view that the plaintiff has squarely put the truth or otherwise of any defamatory imputations in what the defendant said in Parliament in issue in the trial of this action.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">And fourthly, I am satisfied that fairness and justice to neither party can be accorded in a trial where the issues are as they are joined between them.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Whilst some of the above conclusions might overlap with each other and whilst I acknowledge that the first might more appropriately be cause to dismiss the plaintiff’s action, each of them, either separately or in conjunction with each other, well justifies an order that the action be permanently stayed.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">As to the issues raised by the pleadings it is agreed that on 30 October 2008, in answer to a question put to her in Parliament by another member of Parliament, the defendant said the following words referring to the plaintiff:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><i style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I have to say that in certain circumstances each and every one of us would question whether our children would have been safe in Mr Easling’s care.<u></u><u></u></i></p><p><i style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">We had people going into that house and finding semi-naked boys in his bed.<u></u><u></u></i></p><p><i style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If you want me to go into detail, I can. It is very unsavoury.<u></u><u></u></i></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The plaintiff says those words were “the October Statement”, although the defendant says those words were only part of what the defendant said on 30 October 2008 in Parliament in answer to a question regarding when the Special Investigations Unit investigated the plaintiff (Exhibit “DPL1”, Affidavit of Daniel Peter Lorbeer).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It is agreed that the October Statement, or a substantial part of it, was republished extensively through South Australia by the electronic and print media. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It is agreed that on 12 November 2008 an email was sent by Matt Clemow to Hendrik Gout in the following terms:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><i style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On October 30<sup>th</sup> the Member for Davenport raised issues in the Parliament in relation to an investigation undertaken by the Special Investigations Unit of Dept Families and Communities.<u></u><u></u></i></p><p><i style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In response to the Member for Davenport I again highlighted to the Parliament that the SIU’s responsibility is to investigate serious allegations where a child in the care of the State is put at risk.<u></u><u></u></i></p><p><i style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The documentation provided by the SIU, since this matter has been raised by the Member for Davenport, includes the many serious allegations that led to Mr Easling’s deregistration as a foster carer.<u></u><u></u></i></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The plaintiff refers to this email as “the November Email”. The plaintiff says this email was sent to Mr Gout, a reporter then employed by <i>The Independent Weekly</i>, by a member of the defendant’s staff on her direction. Although this is denied by the defendant, the matter was argued before the Master and me on the basis that it was a publication by the defendant.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It is agreed that on 14 November 2008 the same person who sent the November Email to Mr Gout sent the same email to the email address of David Bevan. The plaintiff refers to this email as “the ABC Email”. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">There are some issues joined between the parties as to whether or not the defendant knew or ought to have known that the November Email would be republished by <i>The Independent Weekly </i>in the context of a report or commentary upon the making of the October Statement, and whether or not, in causing the ABC Email to be sent, the defendant knew or ought to have known that the content of the ABC Email would be republished by ABC Radio in the context of a report or commentary upon the making of the October Statement. These issues, however, do not have to be resolved for the purpose of determining this appeal.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Although the plaintiff does not say that he has suffered loss and damage as a consequence of the October Statement made by the defendant in Parliament (refer to SofC, para 13), he does say that the October Statement, the November Email and the ABC Email were defamatory of him, were unjustified and were untrue (SofC, para 10). <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Further, the plaintiff says that the October Statement carried certain imputations (SofC, para 9). They were said to be:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">9.1 That on occasions Officers of the Department of Families and Communities (“Departmental Officers”) had attended at the Plaintiff’s residence and had seen semi‑naked boys in the Plaintiff’s bed;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">9.2 That the Defendant was in possession of detailed evidence of inappropriate conduct by the Plaintiff towards children at his residence;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">9.3 That the Plaintiff had engaged in acts of a sexual nature with children in his care;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">9.4 That the Plaintiff had engaged in acts with children in his care that an ordinary person would consider to be improper;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">9.5 That, by the conduct observed by Departmental Officers, the Plaintiff poses a risk of harm to children;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">9.6 That the Plaintiff is a paedophile;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">9.7 That the Plaintiff preyed upon and exploited children in his care;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">9.8 That the Plaintiff took advantage of the vulnerability and naivety of children in his care;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">9.9 That the Plaintiff was guilty of sexually assaulting children notwithstanding the verdict of acquittal on all charges the subject of an earlier prosecution;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">and<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">9.10 That evidence exists which supports each of the imputations pleaded herein.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The defendant says that the plaintiff is not entitled to rely on the October Statement made by the defendant in Parliament, or any imputations said to arise from it, because “such a pleading is in breach of the privilege of the Parliament of South Australia and the plaintiff is thereby disentitled from relying on the matters so pleaded” (D, para 20).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Whilst the plaintiff does not allege that he has suffered loss and damage as a consequence of the publication by the defendant of what she said in Parliament (the October Statement) he does say that by causing the November Email and the ABC Email to be sent she “adopted, repeated, confirmed as true and republished by reference the October Statement in a context which was not protected by privilege” (SofC, para 8). This is denied by the defendant. She says that by neither the November Email nor the ABC Email were any of these things done.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Further, the defendant submits that the plaintiff has put in issue the truth or otherwise of what the defendant said in Parliament on 30 October 2008, and that a trial cannot fairly be conducted on that issue, where both parties are precluded, in particular by s 16(3) of the <i>Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987</i>(Cth), from lawfully questioning that issue.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Section 16 of the <i>Parliamentary Privileges Act </i>provides:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u>(1) <u></u>For the avoidance of doubt, it is hereby declared and enacted that the provisions of article 9 of the Bill of Rights, 1688 apply in relation to the Parliament of the Commonwealth and, as so applying, are to be taken to have, in addition to any other operation, the effect of the subsequent provisions of this section.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u>(2) <u></u>For the purposes of the provisions of article 9 of the Bill of Rights, 1688 as applying in relation to the Parliament, and for the purposes of this section, “<b>proceedings in Parliament</b>” means all words spoken and acts done in the course of, or for purposes of or incidental to, the transacting of the business of a House or of a committee, and, without limiting the generality of the foregoing, includes:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin-left: 92.15pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u>(a) <u></u>the giving of evidence before a House or a committee, and evidence so given;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin-left: 92.15pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u>(b) <u></u>the presentation or submission of a document to a House or a committee;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin-left: 92.15pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u>(c) <u></u>the preparation of a document for purposes of or incidental to the transacting of any such business; and<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin-left: 92.15pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u>(d) <u></u>the formulation, making or publication of a document, including a report, by or pursuant to an order of a House or a committee and the document so formulated, made or published.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u>(3) <u></u>In proceedings in any court or tribunal, it is not lawful for evidence to be tendered or received, questions asked or statements, submissions or comments made, concerning proceedings in Parliament, by way of, or for the purpose of;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin-left: 92.15pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u>(a) <u></u>questioning or relying on the truth, motive, intention or good faith of anything forming part of those proceedings in Parliament;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin-left: 92.15pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u>(b) <u></u>otherwise questioning or establishing the credibility, motive, intention or good faith of any person; or<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="margin-left: 92.15pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u>(c) <u></u>drawing, or inviting the drawing of, inferences or conclusions wholly or partly from anything forming part of those proceedings in Parliament.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I have set out s 16 here because I consider it relevant to each of my conclusions on this appeal. I consider that the breadth of absolute privilege accorded to parliamentary proceedings in this country is relevant and important. It also provides colour to the issues for decision.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I do this notwithstanding that perhaps logically the first question is whether by the publication of the November Email and the ABC Email outside of Parliament the defendant “adopted, repeated, confirmed as true and republished by reference to the October Statement in a context which was not protected by privilege”. This is so because the plaintiff says that he does not seek damages from the defendant as a consequence of the publication by her of what she said in Parliament, nor any republication of her words in Parliament by the South Australian electronic and print media. He says that he is entitled to damages against her on the basis that by the two email publications made outside Parliament (“the emails”) she “adopted, repeated, confirmed as true and republished” the defamatory statement and imputations she made in Parliament, where they are not protected by parliamentary privilege. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">As to that assertion I am convinced that the submissions advanced on behalf of the defendant are compelling and correct.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In considering this question I regard it as important to differentiate between the words the plaintiff has defined as being “the October Statement” on the one hand, and all of what the defendant said in Parliament in answer to a question on 30 October 2008 on the other. Another Member of Parliament had raised in the Parliament an investigation undertaken by the Special Investigations Unit of the Department of Families and Communities, of which the defendant was then the Minister. The question was whether, when that unit investigated the plaintiff, it did so within its powers and in accordance with a certain philosophy and practice guidelines. It appears to me that these were the topics or issues raised with and the question asked of the defendant in Parliament, and to which she responded. What she said in response was not confined solely to the three sentences defined by the plaintiff as the October Statement.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The first paragraph of the emails states the subject matter of the issues raised by another member in a question to the defendant. It refers to an investigation undertaken by the Special Investigations Unit of the defendant’s Department. It states what the questioner in Parliament stated to be the subject matter of the issues raised. Although the questioner mentioned the plaintiff’s name in the context of an investigation by the Special Investigations Unit the first paragraph of the emails does not. It refers only to words spoken by the other member of Parliament in a question directed to the defendant.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The second paragraph of the emails is a statement that the defendant had highlighted to the Parliament that the Special Investigations Unit’s responsibility is to investigate serious allegations where a child in the care of the State is put at risk. This paragraph states, albeit in slightly different words, what the defendant first said in answer to the question asked of her in Parliament. This paragraph says nothing about any words uttered by the defendant about the plaintiff. Although there may be some “link” between “children in Mr Easling’s care” in what the plaintiff has said is the October Statement and “a child in the care of the State” in the second paragraph of the emails, this second paragraph of the emails does no more than state what the defendant said in Parliament as to the responsibility of the Special Investigations Unit.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The third paragraph of the emails asserts that documentation provided by the Special Investigation Unit includes the many serious allegations that led to Mr Easling’s deregistration as a foster carer. In my view that does no more than describe what was in the documentation provided by the Special Investigation Unit as including allegations that led to Mr Easling’s deregistration as a foster carer.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">A consideration of the Master’s reasons for decision, the submissions before me, and the authorities cited before me by both parties discloses that a number of words, and a combination of words, have been used when consideration has been given to when, and in what circumstances, publications made outside of Parliament that “refer” or “relate” to something said in Parliament loses the protection of absolute parliamentary privilege. They include: “a reference to, a comment upon, or an elaboration upon” an earlier privileged publication; “the repetition or adoption of” a privileged publication; a defendant “justifying or standing by” the allegations in a privileged publication; a privileged publication being “repeated, expanded upon and sought to be justified” later; a defendant “adopting and publishing the words said” in a privileged publication; a defendant “adopting, repeating and confirming as being true” a statement made in a privileged publication; and a defendant “effectively repeating” a privileged publication.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The plaintiff here says that the defendant, by causing the emails to be sent “adopted, repeated, confirmed as true and republished by reference the October Statement” and that she did that in a context not protected by parliamentary privilege.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The learned Master was of the view that the emails could be read as the defendant “justifying” or “standing by” what she said in Parliament, and further that she “appears to suggest that there are documents to justify, if not to prove, the allegation she made”. He concluded that the emails were “an expansion upon and justification of what” she said in Parliament. It seemed to him that the emails were “an effective repetition or adoption of the October Statement”. Whilst the Master obviously drew some of these words from the authorities which he carefully examined they are not all relied upon by the plaintiff in this case. For example, “expansion upon and justification of” does not seem to be relied on by the plaintiff here, although he does allege that the emails “confirmed as true” what was said in Parliament.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Some of the other authorities referred to by the Master and in argument before me have considered publications made outside of Parliament that “refer” or “ relate” to something said in Parliament where someone is asked outside Parliament about what he or she said in Parliament. In some cases a person has said words to the effect “What I said in Parliament was what I said”; or “I said what I said”; or “I do not propose to say anything further than what I said in Parliament”; or “I don’t resile from what I said in Parliament”. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">There may often be differences of views as to whether a statement or statements made outside of Parliament that “refer” or “relate” to something that was said in Parliament is properly to be characterized as falling within a description of being “adopted, repeated, confirmed as true and republished by reference” to a statement in Parliament on the one hand, or as a statement to the effect “What I said in Parliament was what I said in Parliament” on the other. I have come to a different view and different conclusions to those reached by the learned Master. My views and conclusions have been influenced significantly by the importance in our society of the principle underlying the absolute privilege accorded to statements made in our Parliament, and by what I consider to be the quite high and binding test in South Australia which imposes a fairly strict embargo on any form of reliance on a parliamentary statement as a foundation for an action in defamation against a Parliamentarian. Such an embargo is, in my view, concomitant to the importance of the principle.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I consider that <i>Australian Broadcasting Corp v Chatterton </i>(1986) 46 SASR 1 requires that there must be clearly established a strong link between something said in Parliament and something said outside it before a Parliamentarian can be made liable in defamation on the subject matter of something he or she said in Parliament. I consider that this authority requires there to be found the actual repetition or adoption in substance of what was said in Parliament in a statement made outside it, before the latter is actionable in defamation.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The defendant’s words that the plaintiff says constitute the October Statement are that “each and every one of us would question whether our children would have been safe in (the plaintiff’s) care – people (were) going into that house and finding semi-naked boys in his bed – (the) detail … is very unsavoury”. When I compare those words with the words in the emails I cannot conclude that the emails actually repeat or adopt in substance the defendant’s words in the October Statement. In my view the emails make no reference to what the defendant said in the October Statement in Parliament about the plaintiff, let alone actually repeating what she said or adopting in substance what she said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">What the defendant said in the October Statement in Parliament about the plaintiff forms the base of his claim against her in damages, the words are said to carry imputations defamatory of him, and they are said to be unjustified and untrue.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">My conclusion is that they were not, at law or in fact, published by the defendant in the emails and are therefore not actionable. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">This conclusion is enough to dispose of the appeal. If the basis upon which the plaintiff seeks damages against the defendant in defamation, being defamatory publications and imputations not protected by Parliamentary privilege which I find were not made, then the plaintiff’s claim must fail and be dismissed, or be permanently stayed. The relief the defendant seeks here is a permanent stay. I would grant such a stay on the conclusions and findings I make.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Even if I was convinced that the plaintiff had an arguable case as to the pleading upon which he relies in paragraph 8 of his Second Statement of Claim, I would not allow the case to go to trial to have that matter determined by the trial judge. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">My view of the case is that it is inconceivable that a trial could properly and fairly be conducted without both parties being in breach of the privileges of the Parliament of South Australia. The truth or otherwise of what the defendant said in Parliament and whether her words carried the defamatory imputations pleaded, would, in my view, inevitably be an issue in any trial. I consider that it would be impossible to conduct a trial where s 16(3) of the <i>Parliamentary Privileges Act </i>would not be breached in some way or another, probably by both parties. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The truth of what the defendant said in Parliament would inevitably be questioned, as would her intention and her good faith in saying the words of the October Statement. The drawing of inferences or conclusions, wholly or partly, from what the defendant said in Parliament would, in my view, be inevitable. The words of the October Statement and the imputations they are alleged to carry are in issue on the pleadings and would be issues between the parties in any trial. The plaintiff intends, by his pleadings, to prove the falsity of the statements made by the defendant in Parliament, or at least to put in issue the inability of the plaintiff to prove or justify them. He also intends to question her motive in saying what she said of him in Parliament “notwithstanding the verdict of acquittal on all charges the subject of an earlier prosecution” against him.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">My view is that it can not be said in this case that all the plaintiff intends to do at trial is to prove what the defendant said in Parliament “as a matter of history” (cf <i>Della Bosca v Arena </i>[1999] NSWSC 1057 [25]).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It is my conclusion that I should order that the plaintiff’s action against the defendant be permanently stayed.</span></p>Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com1Adelaide Adelaide-34.921748 138.595401tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-44734995698974605222014-03-06T09:51:00.001+10:302014-03-06T10:10:02.500+10:30307: Gimme Gimme Gimme or Sue Me, Sue You Blues<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I dunno about you, but I love reading about people who are given all the chances in life, live richly and successfully and yet want more, all without lifting a finger. Entitlement is a grand thing indeed, and this guy takes the cake. Not only does he want it all, he wants to ensure he gets it all solely by taking his mother to court and contesting the will of her father, his grandfather.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">From the first case. "Robert, the plaintiff, made clear in his evidence that the plaintiffs not only claimed everything from the testor's estate, but had given virtually no consideration to what should happen to their mother.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Q: Your case as pleaded is that you and your brother should inherit your grandfather's entire estate, is that correct?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">A: Yes.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Q: And your mother should get what?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">A: Whatever she likes. Pension. Trust."</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Lovely kids those.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">You can almost see the judge sitting there and holding back from calling this guy some choice names. Perhaps he should have, but, alas, he has to refrain. Remember, kiddies, it's people like this that are running the country, and it's cases like this that ensure the legal system is bogged down into the quagmire for years to come.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Supreme Court<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">New South Wales<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Wilcox v Wilcox (No 2) [2014] NSWSC 88<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">10, 11, 12 & 13 February 2014<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">21/02/2014<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">JUDGMENT<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Introduction<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">This is a sorry case brought by two adult grandsons seeking orders that provision be made for them out of their grandfather's estate. The claim of the second plaintiff was settled and requires no adjudication or comment. The claim of the first plaintiff, Robert Wilcox, a 46 year old single man, remains to be resolved. His claim has limited merit but I have reached the conclusion that it is appropriate to make some order.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The defendant is the executrix and primary beneficiary of her father's will. She is the mother of Robert Wilcox who is her eldest son. The will is dated 21 August 2002. The testator died on 17 January 2010. Probate of the will was granted on 17 October 2011. The inventory of property forming part of the grant of probate, lists assets consisting of real estate, shares in companies and monies on deposit having an estimated or known value of $5,518,176.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I said enough in my first judgment [2012] NSWSC 1138 to make clear that a substantial basis of Robert Wilcox's claim seems to have been a highly developed and unhealthy sense of entitlement. By his will, his grandfather, the testator, left his direct and indirect interests in a number of pastoral properties at Walgett to the defendant, his daughter. This was reasonable and natural. I have no doubt that the testator anticipated that his daughter would, in all probability, eventually pass on the properties, or a substantial portion of them, to her sons. However, he was content to leave that question ultimately for his daughter's judgment. Unfortunately, instead of waiting for events to run their natural course, the sons sued their mother as executrix of their grandfather's estate, resulting in unquantifiable family discord, substantial cost and considerable hardship.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">This was the context in which I concluded in my first judgment that, even though he was a mere grandson, Robert Wilcox was an eligible person who may apply to the court for a family provision order out of the estate of the deceased within the meaning of Section 57(1)(e) of the Succession Act 2006 (NSW). The purpose of this second hearing was to establish what precise order, if any, should be made.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I explained the necessity for this further hearing in my first judgment as follows: ... there was an assumption in the plaintiffs' case that only the transfer to them of some or all of their grandfather's agricultural properties would do. They did not, and would not, consider a monetary award which might enable them to provide for their future and to purchase a home in Sydney or elsewhere. This must be part of any consideration of what is adequate and proper. I do not rule it out. And I have misgivings about the ability of the plaintiffs, by themselves, to make a success of a grazing enterprise.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But on any view, it is not possible for me to make an informed decision in accordance with the statutory criteria and the exposition of principle explained by the High Court of Australia in Vigolo v Bostin and Singer v Berghouse [1994] HCA 40; (1994) 181 CLR 201, without adequate financial information. Counsel for the defendant is in the same unfortunate position as I am. ...... I have been left in the position of having no means of knowing, and no opportunity of assessing, whether the transfer to the plaintiffs of the three properties of their choice, will achieve the statutory objective, let alone be practical. A wise and just testator would expect nothing less. After all, there is no point setting up the plaintiffs in an agricultural enterprise that is doomed to fail.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Court Appointed Expert<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">To facilitate the determination of the question of relief, to limit the costs and to attempt to ensure the just, quick and cheap resolution of the proceedings, I appointed a court expert pursuant to Rule 31.46 of the Uniform Civil Procedure Rules 2005 (NSW). All parties concurred in this decision. And I was informed that the plaintiffs not only approved the identity of the proposed expert but encouraged it. In the result, Mr Graham Peart produced a report to the court dated October 2013. When the report was received, the plaintiffs sought and obtained an adjournment of the further hearing.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">They did not like Mr Peart's conclusions. However, despite being invited to do so, they did not seek clarification of the report, raise any questions or request a supplementary report.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The instructions to Mr Peart were relevantly as follows: The court is considering whether the pastoral holdings currently owned, controlled and operated directly and indirectly by Mrs Patricia Anne Wilcox (the mother) should be divided between the mother and her two sons (Benjamin Wilcox and Robert Wilcox).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Assuming there were to be such a division, please express your opinion as to whether any particular division of those holdings would be economically feasible and workable, bearing in mind:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">(a) the production capacity, income potential or other features of each of the respective holdings;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">(b) the objective of ensuring that any such divided holdings be independently viable;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">(c) the desirability of attempting to ensure that the mother's quality of life is not diminished.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I have referred elsewhere to the difficulties that sometimes result from competing experts' reports. In AMP Capital Investors Limited v Parsons Brinckerhoff Australia Pty Ltd [2013] NSWSC 1633 at [29], I said: A tangle of competing experts engaged on behalf of individual parties in orchestrated adversarial combat is frequently an unsatisfactory means of assisting the court to arrive at an appropriate outcome. There is often a better way.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In Abbey National Mortgages Plc v Key Surveyors Nationwide Ltd [1996] EWCA0 Civ J02051;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">[1996] 1 WLR 1534 the Master of the Rolls, Sir Thomas Bingham, explained that For whatever reasons, and whether consciously or unconsciously, the fact is that expert witnesses instructed on behalf of parties to litigation often tend, if called as witnesses at all, to espouse the cause of those instructing them to a greater or lesser extent, on occasion becoming more partisan than the parties. There must be at least a reasonable chance that an expert appointed by the court, with no axe to grind but a clear obligation to make a careful and objective valuation, may prove a reliable source of expert opinion.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">And in Newark Pty Ltd v Civil & Civic Pty Ltd (1987) 75 ALR 350, Pincus J said at 351: Experience suggests that too often expert witnesses display a degree of partiality, whereas the court appointed expert may be expected to be indifferent as to the result of the case.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">My own view is that the opportunity to have a court appointed expert pursuant to Rule 31.46 is a valuable but underutilised part of the armoury of the court. Nothing adds to the time and expense of litigation quite as much as that which occurs when individual experts, separately retained and paid for by each of the parties, take up court time by their own adversarial jousting. Not only is the process time consuming, but the expense of reports prepared by experts in the fields of accounting, engineering, valuation, town planning and many other areas where courts require sometimes technical assistance, is disturbing.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">A further problem is an occasional lack of objectivity. Despite professing to have read and understood the Expert Witness Code of Conduct, it sometimes seems difficult for an individual party's expert to appreciate that his or her role is to assist the court, not to advocate the case of the party who is paying his or her fees. The difficulty is compounded because experts retained by individual parties frequently become steeped in their client's case. They spend time in conference with the client or its solicitors and counsel; they address questions shaped by them; they submit drafts for their consideration, review and editing; and consciously or subconsciously, they are inclined to absorb the prejudices, preconceptions and loyalties of the client.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Another obvious problem is that a multiplicity of individual expert reports, which are not controlled by the court, and which suffer from some of the defects that I have mentioned, results in the process of dispute resolution becoming more complicated and cumbersome that it needs to be all the while taking up court time that could be made available to other litigants and generating substantial fees for the experts and lawyers. I do not think this is in the interests of justice. It is true that not every case will be appropriate necessarily for the appointment by the court of its own expert, but in my view the majority probably is. And where it is necessary to do so, there are means available to protect the interests of the parties. In this case, for example, the parties were united in approving the identity of the court appointed expert; they were given the opportunity before the hearing to seek clarification of the report, raise questions or request a supplementary report; and they were able to cross-examine the expert. I even asked them to agree on instructions to the expert which they were unable to do. In a rare case, a party might be given leave to call its own expert if the circumstances justify it and the application is timely.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I am satisfied in this case, that the court appointed expert, Mr Peart, is a reliable source of independent expert opinion.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">He is, in my view, experienced, knowledgeable and impartial. I am grateful for his assistance. His conclusion, which I accept, is that division of the aggregated holdings on which the pastoral business is conducted, in order to provide for the transfer of part of the land to the plaintiffs or either of them, was not economically feasible. In the particular circumstances of this case, no division of the holdings would permit either the defendant or her sons to have a viable agricultural unit.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">No doubt partly because of the evidence of Mr Peart, counsel for the first plaintiff stated at the commencement of his address that he did not propose to advance submissions in support of the transfer to the first plaintiff of some or all of the land. He confined his submissions at the conclusion of the hearing to the following two claims: 6. In the further alternative to orders 2 5, the [first] plaintiff is to be paid a lump sum and/or instalments of $1,100,000 within 24 months of the date of this judgment (or such other time as the Court considers appropriate).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In the further alternative to orders 2 6, the [first] plaintiff is to be paid a sum of $40,000 annually from the estate of the deceased, with the annual date for payment being the date 28 days after judgment (or such other time as the Court considers appropriate).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I do not therefore propose to undertake any detailed analysis of whether it is feasible, contrary to Mr Peart's opinion, to divide the aggregate holdings in some way so as to create separate viable agricultural units. Nor do I need to consider counsel's criticisms of Mr Peart in relation to this central conclusion. The issue of division of the land into economically feasible parcels no longer arises. And in any event, although it did not seem to be fully appreciated, it is complicated by the fact that, as I explain in paragraph [22] below, the estate does not itself own each parcel of land. For practical purposes, the only question of reduction in the land holdings of the estate that arises is that which follows indirectly from proposed Order 6, if I were disposed to make it. It was acknowledged that in order for the estate to make a payment of $1.1 million, part of the land under its control would need to be sold.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Appropriate Order<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">For the reasons that follow, I have concluded that the payment of a capital sum of $1.1 million would be too generous and is greater than is necessary to ensure adequate provision for the first plaintiff's proper maintenance or advancement in life having regard to the unique circumstances of the case, the position of the defendant and after giving due weight to the intention of the testator expressed in his will. On the other hand, the payment of $40,000 per annum, is with some qualifications, more appropriate. I will make an order to that effect. I will also make a further order which I explain in paragraph [36] below.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">There is sometimes a misconception by claimants in family provision cases that the court's role is to achieve 'an overall fair' disposition of the deceased's estate. This is wrong and muddled: Gorton v Parks (1989) 17 NSWLR 1 at 6.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">As Hallen J said in Nicholas v Nicholas [2013] NSWSC 697 at [117]: It is not part of the court's function to achieve some kind of equity between the various claimants. The court's role is not to reward an applicant, or to distribute the deceased's estate according to notions of fairness or equity. Nor is the purpose of the jurisdiction conferred by the Act to correct the hurt feelings, or sense of wrong, felt by an applicant. Rather, the court's role is of a specific type and goes no further than the making of 'adequate' provision in all the circumstances for the 'proper' maintenance, education and advancement in life of an applicant.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">And in Cooper v Dungan (1976) 50 ALJR 539 at 542, Stephen J stated that the court should be vigilant in guarding 'against a natural tendency to reform the testator's will according to what it regards as a proper total distribution of the estate'. The position applies à fortiori to grandchildren who only have an entitlement to bring a claim in the limited circumstances specified in Section 57(1)(e) of the Act.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It is true that the assessment of what is adequate 'involves a broad evaluative judgment which is not to be constrained by preconceptions and predispositions': Slack v Rogan [2013] NSWSC 522 at [126]. But as I sought to emphasise in my first judgment at [23]: The court does not simply ride roughshod over the testator's intentions. I have no mandate to rewrite the will with a broad brush. The court's power to make an award is limited. The purpose of the discretionary power under Section 59(1) is to redress circumstances where 'adequate provision' has not been made for the 'proper maintenance, education or advancement in life' of the claimant. The adjectives 'adequate' and 'proper' are words of circumspection. They imply no more than is necessary. I should ensure that 'adequate provision', rather than generous provision, is made, having regard to the burden on the defendant.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In this case, I have already held that the first plaintiff was an unimpressive witness. He gave further evidence at this hearing that only reinforced my reservations. In particular, he had a wholly unrealistic belief in his ability to own and operate an agricultural property. And he could not shake his deeply ingrained sense that he was destined to take over some or all of his grandfather's grazing enterprise.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Robert Wilcox's ultimate inheritance of some of the grazing properties may or may not come to pass in the fullness of time. There was some evidence at the first hearing that the defendant's response to the commencement of proceedings against her was to vary her will to exclude her two sons. I was informed that her intention has now changed in the case of the second plaintiff. I do not exclude the possibility that it will, in due course, also change in the case of the first plaintiff. If the defendant does not make adequate provision in her will for the first plaintiff, her estate may face a stronger claim for a family provision order pursuant to the Succession Act than her father's estate has faced in this case.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But to return to the present. A key aspect of this case is that the testator was, in my view, quite reasonably entitled to take the view that his daughter should receive the entirety of his estate in the first instance and that any further disposition of that property should be left to her judgment. After all, she is a part owner of some of the properties, a shareholder in some of the companies, and an equal partner in the pastoral business. Despite the grandfather's expectation that his grandsons would one day take over the grazing enterprise, things change, life moves on and nothing remains static. The second plaintiff, for example, now has a disability that makes it impractical for him to conduct any grazing operation. One might well think that the best person to judge what is in the best interests of the grandsons, at the appropriate time, is their mother.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mrs Wilcox & Wangrawally Pastoral Company<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I repeat, for Robert Wilcox's benefit, that the evaluative process that the court undertakes is not a simple comparison of the defendant's net wealth with that of the claimant. The exercise of determining whether a family provision order should be made is a far more limited one; one that is constrained by the statutory criteria set out in Sections 5760 of the Act and the principles established by the courts in relation to those provisions. I have endeavoured to summarise the appropriate approach in paragraph above.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The difficulties facing the defendant are an important feature of the evidence and I have taken account of them. The defendant and her father were equal partners in the business known as the Wangrawally Pastoral Company. The business runs sheep and cattle on land consisting of eight parcels. Several of the parcels are adjoining. The four major parcels are on either side of the Walgett Carinda Road. The testator owned the parcels known as 'Newmans', 'Allawa' and 'Uno'. The parcels known as 'Wangrawally' and 'Taylors' are owned by Gidgerygah Pty Ltd. The parcel known as 'Barwon Vale' is owned by the defendant and Sanderson Estates Pty Ltd. The parcel known as 'Punches Plains' is owned by the testator and Gidgerygah Pty Ltd. And the parcel known as 'Gidgerygah' is owned by I F Sanderson Pty Ltd.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The testator owned the shares in Gidgerygah Pty Ltd; some but not all of the shares in I.F Sanderson Pty Ltd; and some but not all of the shares in the Sanderson Estates Pty Ltd. The shares in those companies not owned by the testator are owned by the defendant. Robert Wilcox seemed to think that all eight parcels of land were 'in play' and were available for distribution to him. His counsel pointed frequently to the evidence of the aggregate value of the properties being $15.2 million. This is not really the point and the valuation figure is misleading. I am, of course, only authorised to make an 'order for provision out of the estate of the deceased person': Section 59(2). I referred in paragraph [2] to the inventory of property belonging to the estate.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In any event, the court appointed expert, Mr Peart, expressed reservations about the assumed carrying capacity on which the valuations were based, particularly having regard to the drought conditions which have prevailed during the last eighteen months and especially since the date on which the valuations were undertaken. If Mr Peart's pragmatic reservations are taken into account, then the aggregate value of all of the properties, for what its worth, is much less than $15.2 million. He was, as I have said, impartial.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The security and cash position of the partnership business is as follows. The properties are all heavily mortgaged and cross collateralized.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The mortgages secure a total business debt of $2.565 million with an annual interest cost, until the next rate rise, of almost $200,000. Stock numbers have been reduced progressively as the drought has encroached and feed has diminished. In his October report, Mr Peart predicted a profit after expenses of $106,688 for the year ended 30 June 2014 and $65,691 for the year ended 30 June 2015. He revised these figures when he gave evidence at the hearing because of the continuing drought and the inevitable consequential reduction in the cattle herd.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">He said '... when I was there on the property in October, the cattle herd had already been cut in half because of the drought, and the drought has only got considerably worse since then'.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mr Peart explained that the reduction in cattle numbers will result in reduced income and reduced profit, if any. In fact, Mr Peart's revised predictions were that for the years ended 30 June 2014 and 2015, the pastoral business would more likely suffer losses of approximately $39,000 and $475,000 respectively. In addition to his budget predictions for the years ended June 2014 and 2015, Mr Peart also carried out a ten year historical review of the profit and loss reports of the business. Based on that review, and his own knowledge, he expressed the following conclusions: The ten year review of Profit & Loss reports on the business show that this is a high risk business. Cash reserves or borrowing capacity by mortgage and loans must be available to cover long periods of losss, ie six years in a row 2004 2009.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">There are some other matters that I should mention. Mr Peart's inspection showed 'a rundown farm where little money had been spent on repairs and maintenance in the past. Houses and sheds are in poor condition and many have been damaged by flood water'. The business overdraft is at or near its capacity limit of $330,000. The defendant allows herself drawings from the business of only $1,000 per month. She has already paid on behalf of the estate approximately $185,000 for legal costs in connection with this litigation and $228,736 representing income tax, rates, outgoings and other legitimate expenses for which she is liable as executrix of the estate. Although I have been at pains to point out that the defendant's personal position is not of direct relevance, her individual income tax return for the year ended 30 June 2012 show a modest average annual taxable income for the period 2008 2012 of $97,527.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Robert Wilcox<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I should now turn to Robert Wilcox. He has not made a financial success of his life, despite being given a better start than most young men could have expected. Among many other things, his grandfather ensured that he received a sound education and paid his tuition and boarding fees at The King's School. No one is responsible for the position in which Robert Wilcox now finds himself, except himself. He may not own his own home and he may not have made a lot of money from his employment over the years, but he has no one else to blame. His unhealthy sense of entitlement may have constrained his ambition. Like many an expectant heir before him, he has not made the most of his opportunities, imprudently assuming that he and his brother would inherit their grandfather's estate. And, as I said in paragraph [22] of my first judgment, he gave no thought to the priority that his mother naturally deserved.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Robert Wilcox's current financial circumstances are modest but they are not utterly desperate. In court, he was at all times well groomed and presentable. He said that he has been in a long term stable relationship with a country girl from Cootamundra for over ten years. He resides in Darling Point in shared accommodation. He has been self-employed since at least 2001 and has his own ABN. He has been the proprietor of several businesses. These include a mechanical repair and maintenance business and a tree lopping and maintenance business. Neither business has strictly 'failed' and Robert Wilcox has not been made bankrupt. He simply said that the businesses became 'too hard'.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">He is in communication with his father who is separated from his mother and lives in Lightning Ridge. His father recently won approximately $1.3 million playing Keno.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Robert Wilcox clearly has skills and expertise in connection with heavy machinery of the type used in agriculture, mining and for land clearing purposes. However, he seemed to wish to downplay the prospect of being able to make a living in that field. He gave the following affidavit evidence: Although my mechanical skills mean I could obtain work, for example, for a mining company, the income I would earn, although perceived to be generous as an employee under the current tax regime, I would be lucky to earn $100,000 net, whereas running the family agricultural business on my grandfather's estate I could generate income of approximately $2 million to $2.5 million per year.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In the witness box however, he asserted generally that he could get no work in the mining industry, and made vague statements about the global financial crisis. But there was no adequate evidence of his having tried to secure gainful employment. He said simply that there was no work and that his uncle told him that they were turning people away. I doubt that he was sufficiently motivated to find work. His delusional insistence on his entitlement to own and operate his grandfather's pastoral properties has I suspect, operated as a self-imposed impediment to his advancement in life.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">At least Robert Wilcox has no debts, other than a solitary debt to the Australian Taxation Office, with which I will deal separately. He uses an accounting firm known as Grigg & Bligh Jones to prepare his financial statements and income tax returns. For the years ended 30 June 2012 and 30 June 2011, his income from contracting fees was $64,983 and $76,454 respectively, from which he employed subcontractors, hired equipment and expended not inconsiderable amounts on advertising. He owns a motor vehicle which is used in his business and a quantity of tools of trade, most of which is kept in a rented storage facility.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">He currently receives unemployment benefits in the sum of $510 per fortnight. He said that this allowance 'supplements the little bit of money I earn out of the tree business. It helps me pay the rent'. His recourse to the Newstart allowance seems to be intermittent, as and when he thinks it can be justified. He has no current injuries although his counsel wished to emphasise several accidents that he had suffered in the past. They were relatively minor however and even Robert Wilcox did not appear to wish to overstate them. The debt to the Australian Taxation Office is approximately $107,000. I was informed that each time Robert Wilcox goes back on the Newstart allowance, the tax debt is frozen and interest ceases to accrue. Nonetheless, it remains a considerable burden, although I have to say that Robert Wilcox was remarkably unconcerned about it.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Wise & Just Testator<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In these circumstances, I think that a wise and just testator, with knowledge of the circumstances at the date of hearing, would make some limited provision for his grandson. He would prefer to see the debt of $107,000 to the Australian Taxation Office discharged. And, without detracting from the core intention to leave his interests in the companies and pastoral properties to his daughter, he would, I think, wish to ensure that his grandson received a modest income supplement to assist him with the expenses of his life and work. Robert Wilcox himself proposed that, if he were to receive a payment from the estate in the nature of an annuity, its commencement could be deferred for up to two years in recognition of the harsh drought conditions that currently afflict the pastoral business which his mother is continuing to run. I propose to adopt that suggestion with the additional qualification that the term of the annual payments not be indefinite but that the payments run for seven years from the commencement date.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">This will result in Robert Wilcox being debt free. In addition, if he continues in either business that he has conducted over the last decade, or obtains work in an employed capacity, the annual payment of $40,000 will constitute a modest, yet secure, safety net for a number of years until he is approximately fifty five years of age. By that stage, his mother, if alive, will be almost eighty years old and his father, if alive, will be older still. I would hope that the damage to family relations would by then have been repaired and that Robert Wilcox's future financial prospects will be improved.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I do not accept that Robert Wilcox will be unable to obtain gainful employment in the future especially once he has been forced to recognise that his grandfather's pastoral properties, or some of them, will not for the time being be handed to him on a plate. He has been moderately successful in the past. But since his grandfather's death in 2010, I doubt whether he has tried very hard to maximise his income earning potential. He has allowed himself to be side tracked by the litigation that he commenced against his mother. In my view, his problem has been a lack of motivation rather than a lack of skill or expertise. I will make an order that he be paid $387,000 out of the estate of the deceased $107,000 within 90 days and the balance by seven annual instalments of $40,000 commencing on 21 February 2016.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I am satisfied that the orders that I propose to make will not cause undue hardship to the estate or to the defendant.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The evidence satisfies me that they are affordable. I have structured the payments in such a way as to minimise the hardship to the estate. In the aftermath of this litigation, the estate will be required to meet a number of significant expenses, including the costs of the plaintiffs and the defendant, assuming that I make the usual order. There is also the sum of $228,000 that the defendant has already paid on behalf of the estate. Those amounts are and will be greater than the capital sum of $107,000 that I propose to award to Robert Wilcox, or the deferred annual payments of $40,000. If it is necessary for the estate to sell any property to meet its liabilities, it will not be simply because of the payment of $107,000 to Robert Wilcox or the annual payments of $40,000 to commence in 2016. The evidence of Mr Peart satisfies me that the sale of a small portion of the land on which the pastoral business is conducted could be achieved without detracting from the core profitability of the business. Given the considerable expenses which the estate is facing, I have no doubt that the necessity of such a sale is under active consideration.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Orders & Costs<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">For those reasons, I order that provision be made out of the estate of the deceased (Ian Francis Sanderson) in favour of the first plaintiff by the payment to the first plaintiff of the amount of $387,000, which sum should be paid as follows:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">$107,000 within 90 days of this order;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">$40,000 by seven annual instalments commencing on 21 February 2016.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I propose that the usual order for costs be made but I will entertain written submissions as to any special costs order for which the defendant may contend.<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><br></div>Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-30615126502430892202014-02-19T14:01:00.001+10:302014-02-19T14:01:10.730+10:30306: The Troggs Tapes<p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sometimes reality is far funnier than fiction...</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">IN THE DISTRICT COURT</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">CRIMINAL JURISDICTION</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">ADELAIDE</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">THURSDAY, 13 FEBRUARY 2014 AT 2.10 P.M.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">BEFORE HIS HONOUR JUDGE STRETTON</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">NOS.DCCRM-13-2431 & 13-2432</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">R v</span><span class="s2"> DONALD ROY LONSDALE</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR IN SENTENCING SAID:</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Donald Roy Lonsdale, you have pleaded guilty to a bizarre but dangerous crime. To understand your actions it is necessary to go back some years as it seems your actions were the culmination of years of building anger and frustration which had their genesis over a decade ago. None of that is an excuse for what you did but it explains why you did what you did.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Some time around early 2002 you suffered an injury at work and made a WorkCover claim. As is usually the case you were referred to various medical practitioners for assessment. As the year progressed you were referred to a psychiatrist Dr Jules Begg who interviewed you on three occasions in the latter part of that year. In recent times when I have been dealing with your matter I ordered psychiatric reports and apparently they referred you to him and you declined to meet with him because of the history of seeing him back in 2002.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">He did, however, make some brief comments, and provide his old report from back then. Because I have ordered that and it has been provided to me I take it into account, but I also take into account your comments about it and your attitude to the matters he discusses and raises.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dr Begg recounted how you perceived, during the course of that year, that is back in early 2002, that you had been given conflicting and changing advice about whether you would need time off and whether you could return to work. Dr Begg thought you perceived the attitude of WorkCover in sending these inconsistent messages as a rejection of your suffering.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Yeah, he’s wrong.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: He thought it led to a profound change to your self image, affect, cognition and behaviour and that you started to suffer intense and inappropriate anger when faced with the sudden changes in plans by WorkCover to you. Dr Begg diagnosed you with a borderline personality disorder. He said -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: He’s incorrect.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">HIS HONOUR: He said one of the effects of this in you is that relationships can start with unrealistic idealisation, but when that ideal outcome is ultimately not forthcoming it can result in </span><span class="s2">intense anger on your part. In other words, you can form high expectations of help from people which, if not forthcoming, turn to serious anger.</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dr Begg also said that emotional instability was present, meaning you can become very angry and upset about things very quickly. He also thought that you had become depressed since your accident and that you also had intense feelings of being uncared for and rejected.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">As the years progressed you became more angry and frustrated with WorkCover. You say that in 2007 you would not take the money WorkCover was offering presumably because you assessed it as insufficient and you would not leave and that is when you perceive they started lying about you and making up allegations about you.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: No, wrong again your Honour, wrong again.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: You have told me that in 2007 and 2008 in that context someone alleged you had made threats in relation to at least one WorkCover attendance -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: That’s -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - and you were committed for at least one period of time to a secure psychiatric unit. You also believe you were injured when police attended and took you into custody for that admission and you say -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: That’s correct.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - you say you still suffer from those injuries.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Yeah.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: On the basis of what had been alleged about your behaviour and in particular the threat others claimed you made, police investigated your alleged behaviour. You complained in various ways about the police investigation but no action was taken about your complaint.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On 8 January 2010 you decided to attend the police station to discuss events and got into an argument with the investigating officer and her supervisor there. You -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">PRISONER: Wrong again </span><span class="s2">your</span><span class="s2"> Honour. CIB staff member Matthew Thompson elbowed me in the face and that’s what occurred. I didn’t get in any argument.</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Wait, I am coming to that, just wait. You say the police admitted they knew you had not made the threat that you had been alleged to have made. The argument became heated and you say the police then assaulted you after you informed the officer that you intended to place her under citizen’s arrest and take her to the Anti-Corruption Branch to account for her actions. You were charged with assaulting police. The charge was heard before Magistrate Snopek who delivered a written judgment on 28 April 2011 which recounts the history of what occurred between you and the police between 2007 and 2010 over their investigation of you. Ultimately Magistrate Snopek convicted you of assaulting police.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: And he’s wrong.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I refer to it without repeating all contained in the reasons. You were very upset about that conviction and you still are. You believe that you were not guilty. You believe that the police, in fact, assaulted you. As a result -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: CIB staff member Matthew Thompson elbowing me in the face is not me being guilty of assaulting a police officer.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I just indicated that is your firm belief. As a result -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Or not my belief.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Will you be quiet Mr Lonsdale. I have to proceed with the process of telling you why I am doing what I am doing. That is all I am doing.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">As a result you wanted to appeal that conviction and you sought assistance from the Legal Services Commission to do so. Unfortunately, your request for assistance was rejected by the commission as -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: That’s bullshit because my -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Be quiet.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: My documentation never went to the commission. It was withheld.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Very well.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: She doesn’t have the authority to make a decision on her own.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Just pause there please, Mr Lonsdale. This is not a discussion we are having, this is me delivering -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Well, don’t lie.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I’m not lying.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: You are lying, the commission -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - for assistance was rejected by the commission, as were your approaches to various other government offices and agencies.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: It wasn’t -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: You became increasingly frustrated and upset, which I note you are doing now as well.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Yes, because you’re lying.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: That is the reason you attended the Legal Services Commission on 10 August 2011 and committed the offending which is before the court today. When you first attended the Legal Services Commission on that day it seems you were in possession of a letter from the commission declining to assist you. The declarations reveal you initially stated you wished to make a citizen’s arrest of the officer who had refused your help and after further comments and discussion you left, returning some 45 minutes later.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">You had obtained a can of petrol and oil, two-stroke fuel, in other words, and you returned with it. You obtained two-stroke as you believed the oil in it would make the fire less intense. You say you wanted to make a statement rather than cause extensive damage. You say you again demanded that the commission reinstate their representation of you and when agreement to that proposition was not forthcoming you warned staff to stand back, poured out the fuel and set it alight.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In the end the fire was not extensive and was extinguished shortly after, the total cost of repairs being approximately $4000.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Your actions were frightening, inappropriate and extremely dangerous. After doing what you did you attended the Royal Adelaide Hospital and requested treatment. Police attended there and arrested you later that day.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hospital records show that in 2008 and 2009 respectively you had had some homicidal thoughts concerning your WorkCover case manager and at another time you felt you wanted to burn down the Police Complaints Authority. To your credit -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">PRISONER: </span><span class="s2">Your</span><span class="s2"> Honour, you’ve been provided with false information. The information that states I had had homicidal thoughts was fraud provided to the hospital by the police.</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: To your credit, however, on those occasions you presented yourself to the RAH for treatment, you sought treatment at the hospital rather than pursue either of those thoughts or proposed actions.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: No, wrong; I went to the hospital to try and get the stitches out of my face, not for psychiatric care.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I merely am going on the hospital records you agreed I could have regard to. That is what they show.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: They’re wrong.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">HIS HONOUR: As mentioned, you were arrested and remanded in custody on the day of the </span><span class="s2">offence, that</span><span class="s2"> is 10 August 2011, where you have been ever since. I was informed by the pre-sentence report that as a remand prisoner, regrettably you were not referred to any programs within the prison and have not participated in any psychological intervention. I propose to give you credit for the majority of the time that you have spent in prison, not all of it, because no doubt some aspects of your non-release were likely due to your attitude and approach that you still have today, of anger, frustration and making threats occasionally to those you believe have done you wrong so that has, in part, been a reason for your incarceration.</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">PRISONER: Don’t you think a good idea would be to provide me with the medical care required to repair the injuries sustained as a result of being assaulted by the police officers </span><span class="s2">which</span><span class="s2"> will cease my complaining?</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I think that is a good idea and I hope that is occurring if and when you are diagnosed for the injuries that you mention. In any event, moving back -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: That’s what I want you to do.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I have no power to order that.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: You leave me no other alternative but to take further action.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I propose to give you credit for nearly all the time you spent in custody.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On 23 September 2013 in the Adelaide Magistrates Court you pleaded guilty to the offence of damaging property by fire, contrary to s.85 of the Criminal Law Consolidation Act. You were remanded here for sentence. Your offence also breaches the bond you were placed on by Magistrate Snopek -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: It’s illegal.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - you admitted that breach and the matter was also referred here. I turn to your personal circumstances.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">You told the court you are now aged 41. You told the court you reached year nine in high school but were more interested in mechanics so left school. You initially got a job with a friend working on cars and then had a number of jobs over the years with a good work history until about the age of 30. At that stage you had a job assembling furniture and it is there, when you were working at that job, that you ruptured a disc in your back and tore the tendons in your shoulder, giving rise to the WorkCover claim which sits at the root of your escalating conflict and trouble over the last 10 years.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">You say you have been pretty much a loner but you had one relationship for six or seven years. You have no children.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">You dismissed the lawyers representing you and the court has tried to do what it could to investigate the appropriate way to resolve your case. I ordered a pre-sentence report and, with your agreement, a psychiatric report. Unfortunately, the documentation provided by the corrections officer and the psychiatrists who attended to see you revealed you refused to cooperate with either of them. You terminated the interview with the corrections officer after about 15 minutes and almost immediately with the psychiatrist, Mr Begg, when you ascertained he had prepared the 2002 report to which I referred earlier.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I do understand your attitude to Mr Begg, given that you see him as part of the cause of many of your misdiagnoses or non-diagnoses over time.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">As I ordered these reports in these proceedings to help the court understand your history and situation, I have copied them to you and had regard to them. I have, however, heard your response to them and taken your views about them into account.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The court asked you about your plans for future. You told the court you might leave the country and never come back. You are not optimistic about future work opportunities in light of your injuries. You are angry about not getting appropriate medical care and you are concerned you are getting worse and that you are a potential danger to the community.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Indeed, regrettably you have made a range of threats during the period of this sentencing process. When you spoke to the pre-sentence report writer on 30 January you threatened to set fire to the court. On 7 February -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I didn’t -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: On 7 February in submissions you made a range of threats to all concerned if you were released from custody without the further medical care you believe you should have.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Apart from the matters to which I have referred, you have only minor past offending. The pre-sentence report indicates you didn’t respond well to supervision in the past. You indicate an unwillingness to participate in the future. I wish that would change, Mr Lonsdale. I wish you would try to get help from the psychologists and psychiatrists as well as the medical help you seek. That might well help you deal with the anger and frustration that you feel.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Often when a person has a psychological disorder they don’t perceive it themselves and they need help, even though they do not believe they have that condition, and that might be the case with you.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: You’re wrong. Jules Begg doesn’t have the authority to overrule a professor of psychiatry by the name of Jules Begg using false WorkCover reports in which to do it. That’s why I have this torn disc in my back. I’ve had it for 10 years.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Your case presents an acute sentencing dilemma. You have now spent at least the actual time in custody that the court would ordinarily have sentenced you to serve for this crime, had you shown the normal contrition and motivation to not reoffend that the court ordinarily expects accused persons who have admitted their guilt to exhibit. On the other hand you, although to your credit you admitted your guilt, seem unrepentant.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Why should I be?</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: You should look to yourself and the future Mr Lonsdale to try and get your life on track. On the other hand -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: How can you do that? You’ve seen I’ve been bashed and have been arrested for assaulting them.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: You threaten a repeat of your behaviour if you do not get the treatment you believe you should have, and you harbour strong beliefs many have conspired and continue to conspire against you.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">You may well need ongoing treatment for the physical pain you told me you continue to suffer as a result of injury. The court does not have enough medical information to independently assess that, however I do -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Jennifer Rankine could give it to you.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - I do accept you do genuinely believe you do need it.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In the court’s opinion, despite your firm opinion to the contrary, you likely do have a personality disorder which in turn is likely responsible for the intense anger and frustration you feel, and as such -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: No, wrong.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - is at the root -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Corrupt. Magistrate concealing - the prosecution, resulting in permanent personal injury is the problem.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - and as such this is at the root of your threats and outbursts. You need -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: No.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Listen to me please. Please Mr Lonsdale.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Why should I?</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Because I am here dealing with -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: If you speak the truth then I’ll listen to you.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - you need intense ongoing assistance for your condition by way of counselling and psychological intervention yet you seem resistant to efforts to assess you, assist you or supervise you. All the court can do, Mr Lonsdale, is strongly encourage you to seek that psychological and counselling assistance and embrace it if it is offered or available.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The court must consider today the breach of bond imposed by Magistrate Snopek, and if breached, sentence you for that together with the offence of setting fire to the Legal Services Commission counter.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The aim must be to impose a sentence which reflects the seriousness of your crimes and the potential danger that regrettably you remain to the public, yet that encourages you to get and accept help for your problems and not offend in the future.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Your conduct in setting fire to the Legal Services Commission counter plainly breaches your bond to be of good behaviour imposed by the magistrate for your actions assaulting police. The breach is neither trivial -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I did not assault the police officer, stop lying.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I have to accept the ruling of another court on that. The breach is neither -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: It’s not physically possible for me to grab Officer Thompson around the neck given my shoulder deformity. That is what I was convicted of.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: The breach is neither trivial nor are there grounds to excuse the breach. The court, as I said -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Yes there is because -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: The court is legally -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: It’s not physically possible for me to do.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: The court is legally required to accept the facts as found by Magistrate Snopek -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Magistrate Snopek is wrong and the Attorney-General’s office is concealing contempt of court.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">HIS HONOUR: Those facts appear at para.106 onwards in the magistrate’s judgment. The judgment indicates that after a long period of escalating threats to police you attended the police station to </span><span class="s2">effect</span><span class="s2"> a citizen’s arrest on the officer who had been investigating your earlier matter. As you remonstrated with the police at the police station you grabbed or lunged towards one of them.</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: No, I didn’t Matthew Thompson elbowed me in the face. Do not repeat Magistrate Snopek, I’ll report you to the Attorney-General’s office, you leave me no choice.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Magistrate Snopek found that they grabbed you and after a struggle you were propelled onto a bench and onto the ground with four officers on top of you.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: What happened is CIB staff member Matthew Thompson elbowed me in the face. The stitches are still in there.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: You were injured and your lip bled profusely as a result.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: How is that assaulting a police officer?</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: You gave evidence that you did indeed move towards a police officer to place him under citizen’s arrest -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: No, I didn’t.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: You gave evidence in that court to that effect.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: No I didn’t.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: You said you were then elbowed in the face and assaulted.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: That’s right.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: However Magistrate Snopek did not accept that.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: That’s right. He’s wrong.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I take into account however your history, the circumstances leading up to what you did and the personality disorder you have, which no doubt contributed -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I don’t have a personality disorder you dickhead.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I also take into account that you were injured and bled in the course of your arrest, although there is insufficient material before this court to say to what extent. I do take into account you have told me you had stitches and that they were there for a long time.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: They’re still there.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Very well I take that into account. Having said that your, as it were, aggressive uncompromising -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: My actions were not aggressive, they were justified. Speak to the staff member - </span><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue Light', HelveticaNeue-Light, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Matthew Thompson doesn’t have the authority to conceal criminal behaviour he -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue Light', HelveticaNeue-Light, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: There was no objective basis to justify a citizen’s arrest in that circumstance.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: There was no basis for elbowing me in the face either.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: If you had been concerned police actions were inappropriate or illegal there are proper lawful channels.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I did that through Anthony Wainwright and through the Police Complaints Authority then went to Michael Wright’s office, the police minister’s office, and they did nothing. I went to Federal Senator Paul Simon’s office, when they contacted Michael Wright’s office they produced documentation in relation to the case, when they produced nothing.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Mr Lonsdale, you have already told me this. I have taken all of this into account but as your constant interjections show you remain unrepentant about your conduct on that day.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">PRISONER: What should I be repentant for? </span><span class="s2">Elbowing in the face and someone concealing.</span><span class="s2"> Coppers assault people -</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: For the offence of aggravated assault police and two counts of resist police -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I’m not guilty.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I am required, legally required to sentence you and the sentence will be three months imprisonment.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Regrettably your actions in that case display a similar attitude to the State’s institutions with whom you dealt as is revealed in this case.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I’ll take further action until such time as that decision’s overturned.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Mr Lonsdale you are able to appeal yourself, you don’t need a lawyer to do it. That’s the case -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I’m not a lawyer. I don’t know how to appeal a case.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: The offence of setting fire to the Legal Services Commission counter is very serious. The maximum -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: My oath it is.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: The maximum penalty is life imprisonment.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: You said ten years.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: What you did could have had catastrophic consequences -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Bullshit.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - and potentially endangered many lives. The sentence of the court is three years reduced from three years and six months on account of your plea of guilty. Those sentences will be cumulative resulting in a total period of three years three months imprisonment.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I consider in the unique circumstances of your case it is important that you have support and supervision upon your release and that you be given the strongest incentive possible to address your behavioural problems, that is your anger and your frustration, to reduce those levels of anger and frustration to assist both you and reduce risk to the community. For that -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Okay when they take the stitches out of my face I’ll be as calm as you like, until such time as there’s stitches in my face, you’ve got yourself a fucking war.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: For that reason there will be a two year non-parole period giving a potential 15 months of parole release available to you.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I will not go, ever.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I am going to take -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I will not attend the first appointment, ever.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I am going to take the unusual course of ordering the sentence commence exactly two years ago. Since you have a two year non-parole period that means your non-parole period expires now. That gives you credit for the majority of your time in custody to date, but not all of it, given that your attitude is no doubt a big reason why you are still in there.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">What that means Mr Lonsdale is that from today you can apply for release on parole. In fact -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I won’t be. If I get out I’ll be going to the service station and the Legal Services Commission.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: If you change your attitude and work with the Parole Board and convince them you are safe to release you may be released in the not too distant future, however, if you don’t you might serve the remainder.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I won’t be contacting the Parole Board at all. What I’ll be doing is contacting the Attorney-General’s office in relation to you and the prosecution and I don’t know the staff members on the floor to prove it.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Mr Lonsdale, with these constant outbursts, many judges would have had you gagged early on in these sentencing remarks.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: You should have done it.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I’m not doing that because I believe I should treat you fairly and squarely.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">PRISONER: You shouldn’t lie to me. You shouldn’t lie to the court. If you haven’t got the guts to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, don’t say anything, right. </span><span class="s2">Don’t say nothing</span><span class="s2">. Can’t tell the truth, don’t say anything. Point </span><span class="s2">one,</span><span class="s2"> I’m not guilty of assaulting Officer Thompson -</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Don’t repeat all this. Don’t repeat all this.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: Why not?</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: There is no point repeating it to me. You have a 15 month potential parole period starting today. If you wish to do so either today or when you’ve thought about it more calmly you can immediately apply for parole and if you work with the Parole Board you may be released in the relatively near future. I strongly encourage you to do that and I strongly encourage you to get help for the anger and frustration you feel. That concludes this matter.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">PRISONER: This is what’s going to happen. I’ll do the full whack. After I get out I go to the petrol station then I go back to the Legal Services Commission. The stitches are still in my face and you’re telling me </span><span class="s2">it’s</span><span class="s2"> lawful behaviour to Sue Brebner and perjury on Turrini, and it’s not.</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I told you repeatedly in submissions over the last month you must not make threats. Any further threats you make may constitute further offences. Be quiet. Be quiet. I’m trying to help you. It’s quite possible -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: No you’re not.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Every further threat you make might be taken and acted upon by the DPP and police. You could be charged with further offending. They would be quite within their rights to do so. You’re making matters worse for yourself.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I’m going to now conclude this hearing, disconnect the video and adjourn the court unless you have anything further to say Madam Crown on behalf of the DPP.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">MS AMOS: There are a couple of things. There was a request for an intervention order by the two witnesses Brebner and also Elizabeth Turrini. I’m wondering if your Honour had considered that issue.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I hadn’t considered that in recent times. That’s an order he not approach either of those witnesses.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I’m going to see -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I make an order in relation to Susan Brebner.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I’ll be breaking that order and with pleasure.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">MS AMOS: And in relation to Elizabeth Turrini. And the request was that Mr Lonsdale not </span><span class="s2">attend</span><span class="s2"> at their residence or place of employment.</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I make an order Mr Lonsdale that you don’t approach Susan Brebner anywhere she may be including her residence or her place at work at the Legal Services Commission -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: That’s going to last about two seconds.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - or any other place she may be. I make a similar order in relation to Elizabeth Turrini. I also make an order that you not approach any of the premises of the Legal Services Commission -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: That’s exactly.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: - I do however indicate that you are perfectly entitled to apply for legal aid by filling out a legal aid application form and sending it to them. You are also entitled to ring them and discuss it with them but only so long as you remain civil and make no threats. Therefore you are entitled to apply for legal aid for any future legal proceedings. You can apply for legal aid to appeal against this decision I’ve made. You can also appeal against this decision I’ve made without legal aid. However, as you continue to make threats despite all my warnings, I have to make those orders you not approach those people.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I’ll be breaking those orders. Perjury -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: If you break them Mr Lonsdale the only person who will suffer is you. You seem to think others will suffer. You will be the one who will be penalised, please don’t do it.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I will.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Anything else?</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PRISONER: I have the right to defend myself.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">MS AMOS: Has your Honour considered compensation? I know your Honour Mr Lonsdale -</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: I am satisfied he has no ability to pay a pecuniary penalty therefore there will be no order Mr Lonsdale pay for any of the damages.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">MS AMOS: Thank you your Honour.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">The only other issue was I did amend the information to</span><span class="s2">s.85(</span><span class="s2">3), the maximum penalty for that is 10 years. I mention that for clarity.</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2">HIS HONOUR: Very well. I note that. I think I was aware of that although I might have mistakenly said life imprisonment based on the original documentation. Thank you for pointing that out. </span><span class="s2">Anything else?</span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="s2"><br></span></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">MS AMOS: That’s all.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">HIS HONOUR: Court will adjourn.</span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="s2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="s2" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">ADJOURNED 2.39 P.M.</span></p>Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-47252401076888409922014-01-23T13:01:00.001+10:302014-01-23T13:01:37.478+10:30306: See The Bombers Shoot Up! Up!<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">My New Football Mantra.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue Light', HelveticaNeue-Light, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I pledge allegiance to The Weapon. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue Light', HelveticaNeue-Light, helvetica, arial, sans-serif; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Wherever there is an Essendon supporter claiming that they are not drug cheats, I shall scream, “WEAPON!” at them as loudly as I can muster. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Whenever I am at an Essendon game and Super Jobey is near the ball, I shall scream, “WEAPON!” just before I boo him.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Whenever Super Joby cries after being booed at a game I shall laugh and scream, “WEAPON!!!” along with the words, “DRUG CHEAT!”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Whenever an Essendon supporter mentions the Adelaide Crows and their salary cap rort of paying Kurt Tippett an extra $200,000 in Balfours Steak and Onion pies, I shall scream, “DRUG CHEATS!!!!”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Whenever an Essendon supporter tells me, “At least we’ve won a premiership this century,” I shall respond, “At least my team DOESN’T TAKE DRUGS YOU FUCKING DRUG CHEATING ARSEHOLES!!”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Whenever an Essendon supporter reminds me of what a champion James Hird was, and still is, I shall sing, “ME ME ME ME ME ME ME DRUG CHEAT!!!” and remind them that Hird was the reason why they are the first team in the HISTORY of the game to be removed from the finals. Ever. EVER! In the history of the game! EVER!!<u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I shall sing, “See the Bombers shoot up, up.” Each and every time an Essendon supporter tells me that they did nothing wrong.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">And I shall, again, invite any piss weak Essendon supporter to come outside and settle things, like gentlemen of old, with fisticuffs, when they tell me to burn small delightful orange hats with ears.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue Light', HelveticaNeue-Light, helvetica, arial, sans-serif; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Weapon, we love you.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font face="Helvetica Neue Light, HelveticaNeue-Light, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Christ, I'm looking forward to the coming season. Bring it on bitches.</span></font></p><div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br></span></div>Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-71600911220855584432014-01-22T08:47:00.001+10:302014-01-22T08:47:42.453+10:30305: He's Back....<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Ok, so I’m back. So what of it? I was away, now I have returned. I had no real desire to fire up once again, to open the sluice gates and allow the bile to run free, but public demand – and, in this case I mean three people – has forced my feeble hands into jotting down my own unique brand of thoughts and over inflated opinions. That’s right, over inflated. Trust me, just because I, or anyone else for that matter, have an opinion, it doesn’t mean it’s right, nor does it mean that it should be adopted as the gospel truth. And if you don’t like that then fuck off right now and save us both the time and trouble – me the trouble of having to explain myself and you the time of having to wade through my bullshit in the vain hopes that a gem of enlightenment might suddenly pop up like Ron Jeremy’s cock at a porn party. It ain’t gonna happen. Nope, not in a heartbeat. Some people aspire to achieve mediocrity, some never get that far. I’m kind of halfway in between.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">So, for the eight people who are left reading this far, let’s recap as to where we’re currently at in our lives. In fact, let’s not. I you want to tell me then go right ahead, there is a comment section on this blog, it’d be nice to see someone other than a spam artist using it. As for me, still in the same job, still married to a person with the grace of Kelly and the patience of Gandhi, such skills are vital for being in my presence for more than twenty minutes, or so I’ve been told. I’m still a drunk on certain occasions, I still complain about people and I have no tolerance for idiots. Fuck ‘em. You voted Liberal, you deal with the shit that we’re currently in, a climate of lies, secrets, mis-information and corruption. You gets what you pay for really. I know where my salt falls on the chips.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But, that’s for another day…and that day is coming very soon. Now that I’m shaking off the dust and shit, releasing the kraken will be easy. I’ve a lot to say and not much time to say it, so sit down, shut up or piss off.</span></p>Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-77579191378827946222012-10-31T19:23:00.000+10:302019-08-03T07:50:06.623+09:30#123: Daddy’s Gonna Pay For Your Crashed CarNot everything is happy days and fun stuff like someone going out on a home visit and having a dog engage in carnal knowledge of their leg. For everything that happens that makes you chuckle at the sheer insanity of people and situations, someone will always come along to bring you right down to earth, with a shattering, not shuddering, thud. Not everything that happens has a happy ending and something always happens to remind you that, despite any amount of years and knowledge thatg you've gainedThis was one such day. It started out as a perfectly normal interview. I was happy that a support worker was in attendance, and it was a support worker that I’d dealt with before and had established a rapport with. All was well really, the usual stuff, domestic violence, drugs, alcohol abuse – you name it, it was there. The person in question had almost reached the milestone birthday where life begins anew and already had twelve kids to their name, with ages ranging from the ages of twenty three through to just under a year. What can I say? Some people start early. At least six different fathers and kids all over the country. Good stuff.<br />
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Now the support worker and myself were busy working up plans and the like when the person in question said that they had a desire to discuss one important aspect of the domestic violence. Now in this job, and in life really, I’ve seen and heard almost everything, and I expect that the support worker has as well. Still, this was a new one by me and it bothered me. A lot. Here’s how it unfolded.<br />
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ME: So, you're a victim of domestic violence?<br />
CUST: Yep. Last time he bashed me so badly that I miscarriaged at four months. Put his hands in my mouth and broke my jaw and knocked my eye out of it's socket.<br />
ME: Jesus! Did you engage the Domestic Violence Crisis Service?<br />
CUST: Nope.<br />
ME: Why? They do provide shelter.<br />
CUST: Yeah, but when I did they put me in a boarding house with druggies.<br />
ME: But it says here that you're also addicted to valium, are on the methadone program and have problems with alcohol.<br />
CUST: So?<br />
ME: In effect you're also a drug addict.<br />
CUST: Doesn't mean I want to hang around with the losers. Stupid bastards.<br />
SUPPORT WORKER: Hang on, he broke your jaw? How?<br />
CUST: He punched me to the ground. He then sat on my chest and punched me in the right eye constantly. After a bit, can’t say how long, he knocked my eye out and fractured my eye socket. Well, they said it was a fracture, I think he just fucked it up completely. Then he put both his hands in my mouth.<br />
SW: You didn’t think to bite him?<br />
CUST: I was barely conscious. He grabbed the top of my jaw and the bottom and just pulled my jaw apart. Sounded like someone breaking a chicken wishbone actually.<br />
ME: Jesus!! <br />
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At this point I caught a glance from the support worker. She looked horrified and I knew this was the first she’d heard of the extent of the violence. I looked back probably with the same look of shock and horror on my face. But it wasn’t over.<br />
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CUST: Once he’d broken my jaw he kept pulling until he’d torn the skin and nearly ripped my bottom jaw off. I wanted to pass out but for some reason I couldn’t. But I could barely move, and that’s when he kicked me.<br />
ME: He kicked you?<br />
CUST: Yep, he kicked me in the guts and kept going. That’s why I miscarried.<br />
SW: I’m sorry to hear that.<br />
CUST: Yeah. Me too. I was four months pregnant and he kicked the foetus out of me right there and then. Lots of blood was on the floor. I was upset.<br />
ME: Fu…Jesus! I don’t know what to say.<br />
CUST: Yep, that was the worst of it.<br />
ME: So where are you staying now?<br />
CUST: Oh, I couch surf a lot. When he cracks the shits I generally leave.<br />
ME: Hang on a second – he did all of that to you and you STILL live with him?<br />
CUST: Yep. The Domestic Violence Service reckon that if I keep going back then they can’t help me.<br />
ME: Why do you go back?<br />
CUST: Well he is the dad of three of my kids.<br />
ME: That’s…nah, I’m speechless.<br />
<br />
By this point the support worker was sitting there stunned.<br />
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CUST: I don’t stay there often and he hasn’t hit me since. He is going to court though.<br />
ME: Thank Christ for that.<br />
CUST: Yeah, he beat up the guy upstairs and has to go for assault on him as well.<br />
ME: What have the police said?<br />
CUST: Oh, they say they’re going to lock him up. He’s pleaded not guilty though and says that the cops are on his side.<br />
ME: Trust me with this – in these situations, the coppers are never on the side of anyone who’s done what he’s done.<br />
CUST: Yeah, but he says they are. So I’ll wait til he’s locked up and then move. Then he can’t touch me.<br />
<br />
Plans of action were then put in place and it’s just wait and see. The pair left the building and went back to the agency. A day later the phone rang – it was the support worker.<br />
SW: Fucking hell man. I can’t get that out of my head.<br />
ME: Me neither, but what can we do?<br />
SW: Well she refuses to engage and get this – she’s going back to him today.<br />
ME: Fuck!<br />
SW: I guess we should watch the obits.<br />
ME: Let’s hope he gets locked up before he does anything else. Ya know, people wonder why I have nightmares.<br />
SW: Me too.<br />
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What happens next is anyone guess.Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-66960132915876081452012-09-18T08:18:00.002+09:302012-09-18T08:18:58.139+09:30#304: Meet The Flintstones. Now Kill Them.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">To further a recent discussion I'm having on that evil thing called Facebook...</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">It'd
be nice to go just one day when I don't see someone trying to push some
ignorant, misguided, hatemonging media racist's views down my throat?
Be the US elections, be it the recent protests against the wankers who
made the movie that attacks Muslims, be it anything - where is the
tolerance these days? </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">I was raised to accept everyone on their
merits and not to hate anyone on the basis of their colour, creed or
religion. Trust me, if I don't like someone it's due to their failings
as a person, nothing more, nothing less. Eventually this world will
implode beneath the racial hate and religious intolerance that it now
wallows in. I'm not advocating love for all, but, by the maker, take a
step back and stop believing everything that the media blowhards say.
They know nothing more than anyone else and only appeal to the largely
uneducated masses so they can keep their jobs. Use your brains people! </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Today a bald headed moron has written a hate filled screed attacking Muslims who were exercising their right to protest. In most people's worlds it's perfectly acceptable for white Australians to riot and protest, but nobody else can do so, no matter what their religion, colour or creed. It's a vicious cycle really. But a here's something I'd like to share, and you can disagree with it all you want - go for it.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Rape. As the Mother Of Jesus pointed out, there's an impression, fuelled by the media, that all Islamic people believe that, "...<span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836122}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836122}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836122}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836122}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836122}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]">women deserved to be raped because of the way we dress!!!!" Now I'm the first to agree that having such a stance isn't right, but then I've yet to meet one Islamic person that also agrees that women deserve to be raped due to the way that they dress. Not one. But to hide behind any excuse, especially religion, to justify rape is utterly wrong. I'd like to say the following, <span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[0]"><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[0].[0]">the
bulk of rapes in this country are done by white people who wear hoodies, so let's ban the
hoodies and balaclavas. People have been raping others due to the way
they dress since women started sh</span></span><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]">owing ankles. The Hoodie doesn't hide behind religion thought, the hoodie hides behind something a lot more dangerous. <span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836147}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836147}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836147}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[0]">The Hoodie generally hides behind their upbringing, or blames a drug or
alcohol addiction that they inflicted upon themselves, or blames society
because they're too lazy to get a job and thinks the world owes them.
The Hoodie blames everyone but themselves for their damage that they do.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836122}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836122}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836122}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836122}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836122}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[80].[1][2][1]{comment440134306030339_4836130}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]"></span> Let's ban the Hoodie before we ban the Burqua.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">To all of your bastards who were wondering where I'd gotten to, let's just say I was busy having a gigantic shit. </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Browsing that evil ole Facebook this morning I saw this photo and had a chuckle. I pointed out, in the comments section, that it reminded me of some graffiti that used to be in the men's growler of the upstairs nightclub in Rundle Street in the 1990s and the story that went with it. The night in question I went with my then girlfriend and a pal for some quiet drinks - an anomaly at the time because I was well into my phase of drinking myself into oblivion and swallowing almost any happy pill that was offered (or not). Loads of fun really. On the night in question some peon thought it'd be a good idea to crack onto my then girlfriend, who also thought it'd be a good idea to flirt with the guy in front of me with the view of making me jealous. Really, we were as bad as each other, and I could never understand that. Oh well, such is life. After I'd told the idiot that it'd be in his best interests to leave the place I went for a quiet slash. That's when the fun broke out.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">The clown followed me in and decided to pick a fight. I wasn't in really in the mood for any shenanigans so, in one of my more violent moments, I grabbed the swine and I put his head through one of the cisterns, thus breaking both the cistern and presumably his head, leaving the floor awash with Royal Doulton, dirty water and some claret. He lay on the floor, covered in filth and blood, moaning and twitching, so I left.
A few months later I went back for a night out and went for a slash to find that the cistern hadn't been replaced but someone had written, "Personal Jesus Wuz Here!" </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">I fucking loved it. And I hope that bastard still has a headache. In my dreams I imagine that he has a Royal Doulton logo permanently etched onto his forehead.</span></span>Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-55011762800712708452012-06-14T16:25:00.001+09:302012-06-14T16:25:42.722+09:30#302: Ladies Night In BuffaloGo ahead, name all of these guys- some of the finest men to grace the wrestling ring, ever, and some of the greatest duds of all time.<br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Ok, we all know Classy Freddie Blassie - our Patron Saint...so fuck off you pencil neck geeks!</td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">This little fucker wrestled back in the days when it was acceptable to call him a midget. Now you say midget and people get the shits up, but it's alright to call someone a hillbilly or a retard - go figure.</td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Somehow I get the impression that this guy might have been gay. If he wasn't then he should have been. Life At The Outpost indeed! Sean Delaney would have LOVED this dude.</td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">This man got more pussy than you ever will, and rightly so. Say hello to Gorilla Monsoon.</td></tr>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">What can anyone say about Grenville Dietrich that hasn't already been suppressed by the courts under defamation laws? Well, quite a lot really. I remember seeing Grenville line up for North Adelaide after sharing quite a few ales with him the night before at a nightclub owned by a guy who used race Speedway cars on Friday nights. I say the night before, but I'm being quite kind here; we stopped drinking at around 5am, whereupon Grenville tried to chat my mother up and duly lined up for North Adelaide at around 1:30pm the same day. He ambled out onto the ground, took his position, attacked the ball, kicked a goal and promptly spewed his guts up. And they were quite considerable guts indeed.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;">People often ask me, who was the King of the Duds when it comes to AFL. Could it be Port Adelaide's Matthew Westoff? Romano Negri? Could it be someone like David Gallagher, who was a dud at two clubs? Or someone else? Well, to that I say no, because those duds played the game at AFL level - even duds like Adam Saliba and Jim West played at least one game. I hear you utter names like Trevor Clisby, who never played a game despite being on an AFL list, but he was only ever drafted by one club.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;">The King of all Duds has to surely be this guy - Darren Bartsch. You may rightly ask who. Bartsch was drafted by West Coast Eagles, but he stayed in Adelaide, conversely David Hynes, one of the best ruckmen that Port Adelaide produced in the 1980s, went over to the Eagles at the same time that Bartsch was drafted to be rewarded with a premiership medallion. If, as is claimed, that grand finals are won and lost in the ruck, then Hynes was a better than decent pick-up for the Eagles (as an aside, if anyone suggests that Hynes was a dud, I'll happily wander over and basch some sense into your head). However Bartsch was delisted without playing a game for the Eagles. Geelong then picked him up, but he again stayed in Adelaide and never played a game for Geelong - you can see the pattern developing by now. The Adelaide Crows then placed him on their inaugural playing list, which seemed to be a perfect fit - Bartsch could remain in Adelaide and not have to worry about travelling to play and train. Oddly enough he didn't get a game there either and was duly delisted at the end of 1991. Brisbane then drafted him in 1992, but again he stayed in Adelaide, never played a game and was delisted. Essendon then drafted him in 1993, this time he travelled to Melbourne on Thursdays to train and play, returning to Adelaide on Sundays, much to Kevin Sheedy's amusement, but never played a senior game and was delisted. He did star in the reserves though, for what it's worth.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;">By that stage he joined Port Adelaide with the view of getting onto the Power's list, but that never happened because he did his back. Disillusioned with a system that had treated him so cruelly, he gave up the game and retired to become an off-field success. If you lost count I'll bring you back up to speed - five clubs drafted Darren and he failed to play a single AFL game. It's a shame that Port didn't pick him up as that'd have made it an even six.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;">He now holds the dubious all time record of being drafted and never playing at AFL level, a record that is unlikely to ever be beaten, as these days a player gets two chances at the most. Ladies, gentlemen and ships at sea, I'd like you to meet Darren Bartsch - KING DUD.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">The above text comes from an introduction that I gave at a function to auction off Bartsch's many never worn pristine condition AFL jumpers. I am available to introduce anyone at a function, for a reasonable price - just <a href="mailto:blog@adelaidecomicsandbooks.com" target="_blank">email and ask</a>.</span></span></div>Your Own Personal Jesushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06854499887722777586noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21065634.post-86199605780641680402012-03-23T14:59:00.000+10:302012-03-23T14:59:10.310+10:30#298: Gotta Get A Grip<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-size: small;">Can you just imagine the sheer research that went into this document? Those poor FBI agents had to sit through multiple screenings of Deep Throat, solely to research it and write down a synopsis, detailing each sordid act that was on display on the big screen. No wonder the Special Agents in charge of the investigation redacted their names out of the end result, but such are the sacrifices that one has to make in the course of such investigations. I hope they had a decent supply of popcorn and tissues on hand. </span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;">I'm not sure if this would have been one of the perks of the job, or one of the drawbacks. I can see having no problems sitting in a dark theatre watching a porno for a few times, but I can't see how you'd be able to watch it with a notepad perched on your knee being expected to jot down a detailed synopsis of the plot, such as it was. And not look at anyone else. And not stick your hands in your pockets. Sounds like special torture to me. And it might be me, but check out the write up for the last twenty minutes or so. After going in to great detail the synopsis kinds of fades away - it must have been too much for the buzz cuts to bear.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span id="goog_1469911651"></span><span id="goog_1469911652"></span>What?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They faked it?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Both in the beginning and up to the present
day?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Say it ain’t so, Joe!!!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>According to former Village People lead
singer, Victor Willis, the whole thing was one big fraud, from start to
finish. None of the other Village People ever sang on an album, let alone sang live - none of them could carry a tune!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Hell hath no fury like a
musician wanting royalties and revenge, and hell definitely hath no fury like a woman scorned, especially when she's a lawyer.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Before we get into the who’s
and what’s, let hear from Victor himself, via recently filed court documents.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>“I am the original lead singer of Village People, and writer of such
hits as "Y.M.C.A," Macho Man," "In the Navy," and
"Go West.",” writes Willis.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“In
1977 I was recruited by Can't Stop Productions (Henri Belolo) to record an
album for a non-existent recording group called Village People.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Henri Belolo told me that if the album failed
to be a success, no group would ever be assembled. The album was recorded by me
at the behest of the Henri Belolo as a financial experiment on how to record an
album under a name while tricking the public into believing in a group and
product that simply did not exist.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>At
that time Village People was simply a concept group idea and Henri Belolo knew
this it to be true because I had personally discussed this concern with Henri
Belolo Henri Belolo.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It was only after
the success of the second album recorded by me that Henri Belolo was forced to
assemble a group lest the fraud be exposed.”</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Now them’s be fighting
words, to say the least.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It’s well known
in the music industry that the Village People were originally a studio based
band, built around the strong voice of Victor Willis, who’d spent years singing
back-up for others, uncredited sessions and the odd commercial.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Belolo and his more talented offsider,
producer Jaques Morali, needed someone to bring their own, high energy, high
camp and ultra gay, vision to life.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>For Willis it was
just another chance to make some quick cash singing throwaway tunes that most
people would never hear, but then everyone underestimated the power of Morali’s
gift for writing very, very catchy melodies.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>The issue that Morali had was the fact that English was a second language,
hence the need for someone like Willis to translate what he wanted to say.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Depending on who you believe, Willis either
did a literal translation of Morali’s French lyrics or Willis wrote the words
himself.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Either way Willis got the
credit and recently won a lawsuit for unpaid royalties, so he can’t overly
complain.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Personally I find it very
unbelievable that a straight man, such as Willis, could write such overtly
homosexual lyrics as those found in songs such as Go West, Y.M.C.A and Macho
Man.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You can sing them, tongue in cheek,
but I’m sure that Morali had something else in mind to be in his cheek when he
penned them. </span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i>Now THAT'S a cockduster</i></td></tr>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;">But the first album was
uncredited session singers – we all know that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>“All of my Village People recording, which was each and every hit album,”
continues Willis, “were recorded by me with use of background singers who were
not part the Village People group.”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Now
that’s EVERY song that Willis recorded.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>That’s the classic material, the Y.M.C.A, IN The Navy, Macho Man, Magic
Night, Milkshake, San Francisco, plus a handful
of songs for other related acts, Patrick Juvet’s I Love America for example.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It was ludicrous and lucrative, all at the
same time.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However history would have us
believe that, after the success of the first album, an act was rapidly assembled,
bringing the world the original Village People – Victor Willis, Randy Jones,
Glenn Hughes, Alex Briley, Filipe Rose and David Hodo.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Over the years Jones would come and go, being
replaced by Jeff Olsen, Hughes, God love him, would sadly pass away from cancer; he was
replaced by a former Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle named Eric Anzalone (who, as good as he might be, never could grow a cockduster as impressive as Hughes) and, most
famously, Willis would leave and be replaced by Ray Simpson, brother of
Valerie, who was, as we all know, one half of Ashford & Simpson. And here's some trivia for you - as a session singer Ray Simpson also sang vocals on the Kiss song Tomorrow And Tonight, which appeared on the Love Gun album (this, kiddies, is the reason why I rule at Trivial Pursuit).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Willis would lose his band, his solo career
and his wife (Patricia Rasheed – who went on to fame as Bill Cosby’s wife Mrs. Huxtable in
that awful patronising ‘80s TV show) and ultimately his sanity for a period of
time.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But he’s back, healthy and he
wants the name, the Village People, and, to that end, he’s lifting the lid off
some very dirty laundry.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;">The first step is to
denigrate the remaining members of the act.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>At the time of writing there’s still three original Village People
touring – Rose, Briley and Hodo.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Do they
have a claim?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, no, not according to
Willis.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>For, you see, they never sang a
note in the first place.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“The Village
People never sung as a vocal group or musical because none of the members could
hold a tune as a group, i.e., they could not harmonize as a group in the studio
or for live performances,” says Willis these days.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“So background singers were placed behind the
curtains at every concert as the other Village People members simply lip
synced. In fact, I was the only person to ever sing live at a Village People
concert. Moreover, since my solo performance as Village People for the first
two albums had solidified my Village People sound, to add the new members would
have disturbed or drastically changed the sound. So Henri Belolo decided not to
use the new members for recording purposes either. Therefore, I continued to
record alone as Village People with use of non Village People member background
singers.”</span></div>
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there’s this comment to consider from lawyer Karen Willis.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“I first discovered the group Village People
lip-syncing to pre-recorded music during their live performances in 2007 as I
personally witnessed this.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Since that
time I have witnessed numerous appearances where they continue not to sing as a
group but simply lip syncs to pre-recorded music.”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Now Karen has a vested interest, you see not
only does she represent Victor in his legal stoushes, she also cooks him dinner
– she’s his wife.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Read into that what
you wish to.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>As if the lip-synching
wasn’t bad enough, according to Willis (Victor), the whole Village People thing
was just one big rip-off, designed from the start to gouge money from an
unsuspecting public who clearly didn’t know their credited harmonies from their
uncredited.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;">“I knew Village People was a
sham on the public for financial benefit,” says Villis, “and Henri Belolo knew
this to be a fact too because I personally discussed my concerns with Belolo
when I was asked to perform on American Bandstand but couldn't because there
was not musical and vocal group.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>As a
result, Henri Belolo decided to quickly assemble random phantom group members
to fool the public into believing Village People was real when it fact, it was
simply a sham and Belolo knew it. After our appearance on American Bandstand,
all the temporary group members were let go.” Well, Victor, not quite all of the temporary group members were let go, for, you see, Alex Briley and Filipe Rose were retained from that original line-up, but let's not split hairs. In fact, at last count, I think there's been at least fifteen, if not more, Village People.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"></span>All you saps who bought into it, well
suffer, you Village Idiots! More fool you.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>When the act broke apart in the
mid ‘80s all of the members were set for life, other than, apparently, Victor Willis.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However being qualified for doing nothing
meant that they’d eventually continue touring, and this they did. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Simpson, Hughes and co formed a company called
Sixuvus, which licensed the name, Village People, from Belolo and off they
went.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Surely they sing?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, again, in the words of Willis, who has
no real connection with the group, the answer is a big, fat nope.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“I have personal knowledge that the Village
People to this day is simply a concept group,” Willis claims.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Henri Belolo's sham and fraud continues to
be perpetrated to this day through its licensee to the Sixuvus Village People
are causing consumer confusion by claiming that they are the same Village
People who recorded and performed the original hits I wrote and sung like
"Y.M.C.A." "Macho Man" and "In the Navy." In
2007, I asked Henri Belolo to stop the fraud by at least allowing me to perform
once again as Village People. Henri Belolo refused the request and stated that
as the owner of the Village People who he says it is, regardless of
whether it’s publicly correct and is misleading to the public.”</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;">And now we get to the crux
of the issue.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Or so it might seem.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Since its inception,” states Henri Belolo, “the
Village People group performs high energy "club" or "disco"
songs while dressed in their specific, distinctive costumes. Performances by
the Village People group include both instrumental and vocal renditions of
music.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The Village People group
immediately achieved a high degree of success, and has gained worldwide fame in
connection with musical performances and musical recordings. Among their many
hit songs are "Y.M.C.A", "Macho Man", "In the
Navy", and "Go West". Today, some 30 years after its inception,
the Village People group continues to tour and maintain its status as a unique
musical act. As a testament to the continued fame of the Village People, the
Village People was awarded a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in September
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first terminated by Can't Stop in 1979,” continues Henri Belolo.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Mr. Willis permanently ceased to be a member
of the Village People group in 1982 and has not had any further affiliation
with Can't Stop for over twenty-five years. Mr. Willis has not performed with
the Village People group owned by Can't Stop since 1982, and has no
authorization to do so.”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Not for any
want of trying though.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;">In 2007 lawyer Karen Huff contacted
Belolo, via his own lawyer and asked if Willis could tour as the Village
People.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The letter stated that Willis
had been contacted by “at least two original Village People members” with the
view of a tour.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And yes, considering
that Willis claims that, by virtue, he is the only Village People (Person?),
then surely the two others are him and his reflection?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>No, it’d be Rose and Briley.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The overall aim, for Huff, was to get the
last remaining members back into the fold, that being Hodo and Jones, and then
you’d have five out of six.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Or something
like that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Belolo passed on the offer,
much to the anger of Huff, who promptly married, you got it, Victor Willis, and
then began to file suit, much to the chagrin of Belolo.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;">“Can't Stop refused to grant
a license to Petitioner or Mr. Willis,” Belolo says, “Willis then threatened to
harass Can't Stop and its licensee through lawsuits and other unfounded legal
actions. Upon information and belief, the present cancellation proceeding is an
element of Petitioner's carrying through on her promise. She has also filed
petitions to cancel two registrations for the VILLAGE PEOPLE owned by Can't
Stop.”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Somehow I think this means that
you’re going to see the original Beatles back together, complete with Pete Best
and Stu Sutcliffe, before you’ll be seeing the remaining Village People singing
away, or, well, Willis singing and the rest miming to singers behind curtains,
allegedly.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 150%;">And that’s sad.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Now it matters not if you like or hate the
Village People.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You can be a punk all
your life and spit on them, but, like any popular music, a lot of people will
disagree with you.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Those are the ones
who continue to pay money to see them when they tour and those people sing,
dance and carry on like idiots.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And good
on them – if they’re having fun and not hurting anyone, why deny them?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But if Willis is right, and the Village
People have been miming, in live performances, since day one, well then that
makes them no better than Milli Vanilli.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Or Madonna.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Or Justin Beiber. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Or Britney Spears.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Or any number of acts that rely on backing
vocal tapes these days, and who charge three figures for cheap seat tickets,
and any number of acts in the past, to get their message across and to
entertain.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And that’s what it all comes
down to, entertainment.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The Village
People have never been promoted as great singers, ala the Three Tenors, but
then nobody ever expected Pavarotti, Domingo and Carreras to be leading their
audience in a high spirited dance to Y.M.C.A. either.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Ying and yang, quid-pro-quo, call it what you
want, but it’s either music or entertainment.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Sometimes it can be both, but, more often than not, these days it’s one
or the other.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I expect that if you mention
the name Jonestown to a lot of people today they’d attach no importance or
significance to it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There is a
generation of people who still shudder at what happened at Jonestown though,
and relive with a certain terror the events on the final day, in particular the
final evening within the complex.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>For
those who don’t remember, or don’t know, The Reverend Jim Jones, a madman in
anyone’s terms, led his congregation into a mass suicide, after the slaughter
of five people at a nearby airport in Guyana.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>At the airport lay a US congressman, Leo Ryan, by all
accounts a decent man, three reporters and one of Jim Jones own people who were
trying to escape.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This act of murder fuelled
the paranoia that Jones had been feeding his people for years, and the result
was 908 people dead – elderly, children, babies – everyone, including Jones
himself.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Jones had every right to kill
himself, but by taking those who could make that choice with him, along with
those who were unwilling, was the work of a man who was clearly insane.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Just how bloody crazy Jim
Jones was is a matter of debate, and that debate has raged since he appeared on
the scene back in the early ‘70s, if not before.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However he did reach the nadir of insanity
with his last weeks on Earth, and I’m sure that there’s still people out there
who believe that he was indeed the Messiah, much the same that some Branch
Davidians still believe in their own saviour, David Koresh, another
megalomaniacal nut job who led people to death.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>It is debatable that both Jones and Koresh were hounded by the
authorities, in Koresh’s case he was hounded a fair bit, but, to be fair, if
they were just peaceful people who genuinely wanted to lead peaceful lives then
people would more than likely have left them alone.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However once you start reading about either
person, not just the sanctioned books, but legal documents, FBI and CIA files,
you soon realise that these people’s heads probably rattled like spray paint
cans when shook.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Here’s some evidence for
you.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Once Jim Jones hit Jonestown he
made sure that everything was audio-taped.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>These days he’d merely blog or post videos onto YouTube, but back then a
good C-90 tape was the best he could do.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>When the FBI swept in after the event they had people listen to every
utterance that Jones made – it’d be enough to send anyone psychotic really, but
in the transcripts is this, the last hour of Jim Jones’s life, and that of 908
other people as they all lined up and willingly, or unwillingly in some cases,
drank cyanide laced Kool-Aid, wandered off, lay down and died.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Read this and weep for the innocents who
died, who did not have a choice but were murdered, at Jones’s command, by their
parents and carers.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Suffer little
children indeed.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">...I have loved you<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>how very much I have tried my
best to give you the good life ... in spite of all that I've tried, a handful
of our people, with their lies, have made our life impossible. There's no way
to detach ourselves from what's happened today. Not only - We're in a compound
situation, not only are there those who have left and committed the betrayal of
the century, they have stolen children from others and then seek right now to
kill them because they stole their children, and we are sitting here waiting on
a powder keg. I don't think it is what we want to do with our babies. I don't
think that's what we had in mind to do with our babies. It was said by the
greatest of prophets, from time immemorial, "No man takes my life from me,
I lay my life down." (Crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>yeah!!) So, to sit here and wait for the
catastrophe that's going to happen on that airplane (it's gonna be a
catastrophe) ... Almost happened here, almost happened, the congressman was
nearly killed here... But you can't steal people's children. You can't take off
with people's children without expecting a violent reaction.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And, that's not so unfamiliar to us, either,
even if we were Judeo-Christian, even if we weren't Communists. The worldly
kingdom suffers violence and the violence is triggered by force. If we can't
live in peace then we must die in peace. (Applause) We've been so betrayed, we
have been so terribly betrayed, but we've tried, and as Jack Beam often said
(and I don't know where he's at right this moment, poor Jack), he says if it’s
only worked one day then it was worthwhile ... (crowd cheers) ... Of what's
going to happen here in a matter of a few minutes, is that one of the few on
that plane is gonna shoot the pilot. I know that. I didn't plan it, but I know
it's gonna happen. They're gonna shoot that pilot, and down comes that plane
into the jungle and we had better not have any of our children left when it's
over, 'cause they'll parachute in here on us. I'm telling you just as plain as
I know how to tell you, I've never lied to you... I never have lied to you. I
know that's what's gonna happen, that's what he intends to do and he will do
it. He'll do it. What's there being so bewildered with many, many pressures on
my brain, seeing all these people behave so treasonous, it is just too much for
me to put together, but, I now know what he was telling me and it'll happen. If
the plane gets in the air even. So my opinion is that we be kind to children
and be kind to seniors and take the potion like they used to take in ancient
Greece, and step over quietly because we are not committing suicide. It's a
revolutionary act. We can't go back. They won't leave us alone. They're now
going back to tell more lies which means more congressmen. And there's no way,
no way we can survive. Anybody ... Anyone that has any dissenting opinion,
please speak ... Yes ... You can have opportunity, but if their children are
left we're gonna have them butchered. We can make a strike but we'll be
striking against people that we don't want to strike against. And what we'd
like to get is the people who caused this stuff and some, there's some people
here are prepared to know how to do that, ... go in town and get Timothy Stoen,
but there's no plane, there's no plane, you can't catch a plane in time. He's
responsible for it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He brought these
people to us. He and Deanna Myrtle. But people in San Francisco will not, not be idle over
this. And not take our death in vain, you know ... Yes, Christine...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"> Is
it too late for Russia?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Here's why it's too late for
Russia.
They killed. They started to kill. That's why it makes it too late for Russia.
Otherwise I'd said, "Russia,
you bet your life." But it's too late. I can't control these people.
They're out there. They’ve gone with the guns and it's too late. And once we
kill anybody, at least ... that's the way I've always ... I've always put my
lot with you. And when one of my people do something, it's me. ... Understand,
I don't have to take the blame for this, but I don't live that way. They said
deliver up Jjara, who tried to get the man back here. Jjara, who's mother's
been lying on him and lying on him and trying to break up this family. and
they've all agreed to kill us by any means necessary ...You think I'm going to
deliver them Jjara? Not on your life. No. (Crowd<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>No No!)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>. </span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Is there any way if I go,
that it'll help?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>No, you're not going.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You're not going. (Crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>No! No!)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Not going. I can't live that way. I cannot
live that way. I've lived for all and I've died for all (applause).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’ve been living on a hope for a long time,
Christine, and I appreciate… You've always been a very good agitator. I like
agitation because you have to see two sides of one issue, two sides of the
question. What's those people gonna get done once they get through?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They make our life worse than hell, they'll
make the Russians not accept us. When they get through lying ... They told so
many lies between there and that truck that we are, we Are acme in as far as
any other alternative.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Well, I say let's make an
airlift to Russia,
that's what I say. I don't think nothing is impossible, if you believe it.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>But how we gonna air ... How're you going to
airlift to Russia?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Why, I thought they said if
we got in an emergency, they gave you a code to let them know.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>No, they didn't. They gave us the code that
they'd let us know of an issue, not us create an issue for them. They said if
we ... if they saw the country coming down, they'd agreed they'd give us the
code, they'd give us a code. You can check on there and see if it's on the
code. Check with Russia
to see if they'll take us in immediately.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Otherwise we die.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I don't know
what else you say to these people. But to me death is not ... death is not a
fearful thing; it's living that's treacherous. (applause) I have never, never,
never, never seen anything like this before in my life. I've never seen people
take the law ... and do ... in their own hands, and provoke us and try to
purposely agitate and murder of children. There's no use, Christine, it's just
not worth living like this ... not worth living like this.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I think that there were too
few who left for twelve hundred people to give them their lives, for those
people that left.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Do you know how many left?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Oooh, twenty odd ... that's,
that's small... </span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">...
twenty-odd, twenty-odd...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Compared to what's here.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>twenty-odd. But what's gonna happen when they
don't leave. I hope that they could leave…but what's gonna happen when they
don't leave?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">You mean the people here?</span></div>
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don't leave? When they get on the plane and the plane goes down?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I don't think it'll go down.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">- You don't think it'll go
down? (Crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>Yes it will ..,) I wish I could tell you
you were right, but I'm right. There's one man there, who blames, and
rightfully so, Eddie Blakey, for the murder, for the murder of his mother and
he'll sh... he'll stop that pilot by any means necessary. He'll do it. That plane
will come out of the air. There's no way you can fly a plane without a pilot. </span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I wasn't speaking about that
plane. I was speaking about the plane for us to go to Russia.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>How to…to Russia? Do you think Russia’s
gonna want .. no they're not gonna ... Do you think Russia's gonna want us with all
this stigma?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We had really had some
value ... but now we don't have any value.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Well, I don't see it like
that. I mean, I feel like as long as there's life, there's hope. That's my
faith.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Well, someday we're gonna die, someplace that
hope runs out.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>‘Cause everyone
dies.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>(Crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>right, right) ... I haven't
seen anybody yet that didn't die. And I'd like to choose my own kind of death
for a change. I'm tired of being tormented to hell, that's what I’m tired of
(Crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span></b>right, right).. Tired of it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>(applause) Tired of people's lives in my hands and I certainly don't
want your life in my hands and I'm going to tell you, Christine, without me,
life has no meaning. ... I'm the best friend you'll ever have. And once, once I
have to pay, I'm standing with Jjara, I'm standing with those people. They're
part of me. I could detach myself ... my attorney says detach myself ... no,
no, no, no, no. no ... I'd never detach myself from any of your troubles. I've
always taken your troubles right on my shoulders and I'm not gonna change that
now. It's too late. I've been running too long.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Not gonna change now. ... Maybe the next time you'll get to go to Russia
... the next time 'round ... This is, what I'm talking about to now is in the
dispensation of judgment. This is the revolutionary this is revolutionary
suicide council, I'm not talking about self. Self-destruction. I'm talking
about what, we have no other road. I will take your call. We will put it to the
Russians, and I can tell you the answer now, because I'm a prophet. Call the
Russians and tell them and see if they'll take us. </span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Not that I'm afraid to
die...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>I don't think you are...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">by no means...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">But I look at all the babies
and I think they deserve to live...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>I agree...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">you know</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>But also they deserve ... what's more they
deserve peace.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">We all came here for
peace...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>And we, have we had it?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"> and
crowd<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span></b>No...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>I tried to give it to you. I've laid down my
life, practically, I've practically died every day to give you peace ... and
you still not have any peace. You look better than I've seen you in a long
while, but it's still not the kind of peace that I want to give you.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">The person's a fool who
continues to say that you're a winner when you're a loser.. Win one, lose
two....What? I didn't hear you ma'am, you have to speak up ... That's a sweet
thought, who said that? ... Come on up and speak it again, honey. Stand up and
say it about (inaudible) ... love ... (inaudible) is taking off, no plane is
taking off ... It's suicide. They have done it ... Stoen has done it ... but
somebody ought to live ... somebody ... can they talk ... can they not talk to San Francisco to see that
Stoen does not get by with this infamy? ... With this infamy ... he has done
the thing he wanted to do ... to have us destroyed.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">When you, when you, when we
destroy ourselves we're defeated ... you are saying, "Let the enemy defeat
us."</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Did you see, did you see "I Live to
Fight No More Forever"?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Yes, I saw that.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Did you not have some sense of pride and
victory in that man, that he would not subject himself to the will and whim of
people who tell that they are gonna come in whenever they please, push into our
house, come when they please, take who they want to, talk to who they want to
... does this let living ... that's not living to me. That's not freedom. That's
not the kind of freedom I sought.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>But
I think where they made their mistake is when they stopped to rest. If they had
gone on, they would have made it. But they stopped to rest...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>It's over, sister, it's over ... we've made
that day ... we made a beautiful day and let's make it a beautiful day ...
that's what I say.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>We win, we win when we go down. Tim Stoen has
nobody else to hate ... He has nobody else to hate. Then he'll destroy himself.
I'm speaking here not as the administrator, I'm speaking as a prophet today ...
I wouldn't sit up in this seat and talk so serious if I did not know what I was
talking about. Is there any way to call back ... the immense amount of damage
that's going to be done? But I cannot separate myself from the pain of my
people. And you can't either, Christine, if you stop to think of it. You can't
separate yourself. We've walked too long together.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I know that. But I still
think, as an individual, I have a right to...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I think, what I feel, and I
think we all have the right to our own destiny as individuals. </span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Right...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">And I think I have a right
to choose mine and everybody else has the right to choose theirs. </span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Mm-hmm</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">You know...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Mm-hmmm. I'm not criticizing; I'm not
governing ... What's that?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"> (in
background)<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>She talks like she wants to leave us,
well; she can go ahead ... they're our individual lives, that's what you're
saying.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">That's right.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>That's today, that's what twenty people said
today ... with their lives.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I think that I still have
the right to my own opinion.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>I'm not taking it from you. I'm not taking it
from you.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Christine, you're only standing here because
he was here in the first place. So I don't know what you're talking about
having an individual life. Your life has been extended to the day that you're
standing there because of him.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Despite this, she has as much right to speak
as anybody else, too. What did you say, Louvie (ph.)? Well, you will regret
that this very day if you don't die. You'll regret it if you don't ... that you
don't die. You'll regret it.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">(few words inaudible) ... A
man who saved so many people?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I saved them.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>I saved them and I made my confession. I made my manifestation and the
world was ready ... not ready for me.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Paul said, "I was a man born out of due season." I've been
born out of due season just like all we are and the best testimony we can make
is to leave this God-damn world. ... (cheers from crowd)</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">She must be scared to die.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I'm not talking to her. Will
you let her or let me talk?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>You talk.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Would you make her sit down
and let me talk while I'm on the floor or let her talk?</span></div>
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proper to tell your leader what to do. It really isn't. I've listened to you.
You asked me about Russia.
I'm right now making a call to Russia.
What more do you suggest? I'm listening to you. If Russia gives me one slight bit of
encouragement, just now instructed her to go there and do that.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">You won't do no fuckin' good
in Russia,
God-damn it ... (pause).</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>All right, now everybody hold it, we didn't
come ... hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">...
much longer to maintain. (Crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>That's right)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>To lay down your burdens, I'm gonna lay down
my burdens, down by the riverside, should we lay them down here ... inside of Guyana.
What's the difference? No man didn't take our lives, right now, he hadn't taken
it, but when they start parachuting out of the air, they'll shoot some of our
innocent babies. I'm not ... I don't want to see this, Christine. They gotta
shoot me to get through to some of these people. I'm not letting it take Jjara.
Can you let them take Jjara? (Crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>No-no!)</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">You wanna see John die?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">You mean you wanna see John,
the little one, who's keep...</span></div>
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noises, inaudible) ... peace, peace, peace, peace, peace, peace, peace.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine, are you saying
that you think he thinks more of them than other children here?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>John, John...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">That's what you're saying</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Do you actually, do you think I would put
John's life above others? If I put John's life above others I wouldn't be
standing with Jjara. I'd send John out; he could go out on the driveway
tonight.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">... he's young ... they're
young.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>I know, but he's no different to me than any
of these children here. He's just one of my children. I don't prefer one above
another. I don't prefer him above Jjara. I can't do that. I can't separate
myself from your actions or his actions.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">No way.</span></div>
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you If they wanted to come and get you they'd have to take me.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, we're all ready to go. If you tell us we
have to give our lives now, we're ready. I'm pretty sure all the rest of
sisters and brothers are with me.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>For months I've tried to keep this thing from
happening but I now see it's the will ... it's the will of Sovereign Being that
this happened to us. That we lay down our lives to protest in what's being
done. That we lay down our lives to protest in what's being done.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The criminality of people, the cruelty of
people. Who walked out of here today? Did you notice who walked out? Mostly
white people, mostly white people walked. I'm so grateful for the ones that
didn't, those who knew who they are.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>There's, there's no point, there's no point to - this. We are born
before our time. They won't accept us. And I don't think we should sit here and
take any more time for our children to be endangered and we give them our
children, then our children will suffer forever.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">... different right here.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>I have no quarrel with you coming up, I like
you.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I personally like you very much.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">People get hostile when you
try to...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Oh well, some people do. But then... some
people do. Put it that way. I'm not hostile. You had to be honest and you
stayed. If you wanted to to run, you'd have had to run with them because
anybody coulda run today, they would have wanted to. I know you're not a runner
and your life is precious to me. It's as precious as John's. And I don't ...
what I do, I do with weight and justice and judgment.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I've weighed it against all evidence.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">And that's all I've got to
say.</span></div>
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background)<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>Everybody hold it Sit down right here ...
(loud background noises, agitated)... Stay seated...<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span></span></div>
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(incoherent sounds)<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>Say peace, say peace, say peace, say
peace ... what comes, don't let... take Dviyer on down to the middle(?) of the
east house. Take Dwyer on down...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Everybody be quiet, please.</span></div>
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show you got some respect for our lives.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Let me sit down, sit down, sit down.</span></div>
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very hard. I've been trying over here to see what can, what can happen
(inaudible) who is it (unintelligible voices) ... Get Dwyer out of here before
something happens to him ... (pause) ... Dwyer.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>I'm not talking about Jjara, I said Dwyer.
Ain't nobody gonna take Jjara, I'm not letting 'em take Jjara (pause) ...
Gather in, folks, its easy, its easy. Yes, my love ... (pause)...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">At one time I felt just like
Christine felt. But after today I don't feel anything because the biggest
majority of the people that left here were white and I know it really hurt my
heart because</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Broke your heart, didn't it?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">It broke my heart to think
that all of these years that the white people have been with us and they're not
a part of us. So we might as well end it now because I don't see...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Quit talking the Congressman has been murdered
... (pause, Singing and music)...</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unknown voice in background<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>It's
all over...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>It's all over, all over ... what a legacy,
what a legacy. But the Red Brigade's the only one that's ever made any sense
anyway. They invaded our privacy, they came into our home, they followed us
6,000 miles away. The Red Brigade showed them justice; the Congressman's dead
... please get us some medication. It's simple, it's simple, there's no
convulsions with it, it's just simple, just please get it before it's too late.
The GDF will be here.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I tell you get
moving, get moving, get moving ... (unintelligible words) ... (voice in
background:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>No, no, no, no ...)</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Don't be afraid to die ... (unintelligible
words) ... if these people land out here, they'll torture some of our children
here. They'll torture our people, they'll torture our seniors. We cannot have
this. (crowd: <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>right, right) ... are you gonna separate
yourself from whoever shot the Congressman?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>I don't know who shot him ... (crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>no, no, no, hell no.)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Speak your piece and those had a right to go
and they had a right to ... how many are dead? Oh, God almighty, God
almighty…Mmmm?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">... you and the others to
endure long enough in a safe place, to write about the goodness of Jim Jones...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>I don't know how in the world they're ever
gonna write about us. It's just too late, it's too late. The congress is dead,
the congress lays dead, many of our traitors are dead, they're all laying out
there dead. Mmmm? ... (crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>good, good) I didn't but, but my people
did. My people did. They're my people ... (crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>right, right) ... and
they've been provoked too much ... (crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>right, right) ... They've been provoked
too much. What's happened here's been too ... it's been an act of provocation</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">They did it themselves ...
they did it...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">If it's anyways possible to
have them to Ted something to take him, I'm satisfied. O.K.? </span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>What's that?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I said, if it's any way you
can do, if you can have them to give Ted something so that he won’t have to let
him go, too, O.K.? And I'm satisfied.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Christine:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">'cause I said I never wanted
to him to die ...-and I appreciate you for everything.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">You are, you are the only,
you're the only and I appreciate ... (clapping in background)...</span></div>
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with that medication. You don't know what you’ve done ... (pause) ... I've
tried. (clapping in background) ... (unintelligible words) ... They saw it
happen and ran in the bush and dropped the machine guns, I never in my life ...
But there'll be more ... (music and humming in background). You've got to move.
Are you gonna get that medication here? You've got to move...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Hurry up!</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">You have to move and the
people that are standing there in the aisle go stand the (unintelligible
words), so everybody get behind the table and back this way, O.K.? There's
nothing to worry about, so everybody keep calm and try and keep your children
calm. And the oldest children can help love the little children and reassure
them. They're not crying from pain. It's just a little bitter tasting but,
they're not crying out of any pain.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Annie McGowan, can I please see you back...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">…have
these things to do before I kill you. So let me tell you about it; it might
make a lot of you feel a little more comfortable. Sit down and be quiet, please.
One of the things that I used to do, I used to be a therapist. And the kind of
therapy that I did had to do with reincarnation and past life situations. And
every time anybody had the experience of going into a past life, I was
fortunate enough to farther, to be able to let them experience it all the way
through their death so to speak. And everybody was so happy when they made that
step to the other side.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>When you accept it ... you can do but step
that way, it's the only way to step. (sound of babies crying in the background
music). Be assured in that choice is not ours now. It's out of our hands.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Would you have a body that's been cripple,
suddenly you have the kind of body that you want to have (babies crying in the
background and voice in the background saying:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>calm the children ...
something to give them a little rest, a little rest. Calm the children ...)</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It feels good, it never felt so good, family,
I tell yuh ... you've never felt so good as how that feels ... (babies screaming)
...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>And I do hope that those attorneys will stay
where they belong and don't come up here ... why they did?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>What happened?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>What is it? ... Did what? ... Hard.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It's hard, its hard. ... only first, only at
first is it hard. It's hard only at first. Living, you, you’re looking at
death. It only looks ... living is much, much more difficult. Raising up every
morning, and not knowing what's going to be the night's bringing. It's much
more difficult. It's much more difficult.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I just want to say something
to everyone that I see that is standing around and are crying. This is nothing
to cry about. This is something we should all rejoice about. We can be happy
about this.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They always told us that we
should cry when we’re coming into this world, but when we're leaving and we're
leaving it peaceful ... I tell you, you should be happy about this. I was just
thinking about Jim Jones. He just has suffered and suffered and suffered. He is
the only god and he don't even have a chance to enjoy his death here. (clapping
and shouting) ... I wanted to say one more thing. This is one thing I want to
say. That you that've gone and there's many more here. He's still -- the way,
that's not all of us, that's not all yet. There's just a few that have
died.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A chance to get ... to the one
that they could tell ... their lies to. So and I say I'm looking at so many
people crying, I wish you would not cry and just thank Father, just thank him.
I tell you about ... (clapping and shouting) ... I've been here, uh, one year
and nine months and I never felt better in my life. Not in San Francisco, but until I came to Jonestown.
I enjoy this life. I had a beautiful life. I don't see nothing that I should be
crying about. We should be happy. At least I am. Let's all he the same
(shouting, clapping and music in background)</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">... Wouldn't be alive today.
I'd just like to thank Dad 'cause he was the only one that stood up for me when
I needed him and thank you, Dad.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">(unintelligible words) and
I'm glad you're my brothers and sisters and I'm glad to be here ... O.K.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Please ... for God's sake, let's get on with
that we've lived ... we've lived as no other people have lived and loved. We've
had as much of this world that you're gonna get. Let's just.be done with it.
Let's be done with the agony of it ... (clapping and shouting in the
background). It's far, far harder to have to watch you every day die slowly and
from the time you were a child to the time you get gray you're dying.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">I'm sure that they'll pay
for it, they'll pay for it. This is a revolutionary suicide. This is not a
self-destructive suicide. So they'll pay for this. They brought this upon us
and they'll pay for that. I leave that destiny to them (children crying in
background) ... who wants to go with their child has a right to go with their
child. I think it's humane. I wanna go ... I want to see you go, though. They
can take me and do with-me whatever they want to do. I wanta see you go.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I don't wanna see you go through this hell no
more. No more, no more, no more. (babies crying in background)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We’re trying.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>If everybody will relax. The best thing you do to relax and you will
have no problems. You'll have no problems with this thing if you just relax.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unknown
man:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">... the children here
... a great deal because of Jim Jones. And, the way the children are, laying
dead now, I'd rather see them lay like that than to see them have to die like
the Jews did, which was pitiful anyhow. And I'd just like to thank Dad for
giving us life and also death, and I appreciate the fact the way our children
are going because, like Dad said, when they came in, what they're going to do
to our children, they're going to massacre our children. And also the ones they
take, captive, they're gonna just let them grow up and be dummies like they
want them to be and not grow up to be Socialist like the one and only Jim
Jones. So I'd like to thank Dad for the opportunity for letting Jonestown be,
not what it could be, but what Jonestown is. Thank you, Dad. (clapping).</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>it's not to be feared. It is not to be
feared.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It's a friend, it's a friend.
You're sitting there. Show your love for one another ... (unintelligible words)
... let's get calm, let's get calm, let's get calm. (babies screaming in
background) ... to us ... we had nothing we could do, we can't, we can't
separate ourselves from our own people. (pause, children crying in background)
... For twenty years laying in some old rotten nursing home ... (pause) ...
taken us through all these anguished years. They took us and put us in chains
and that's nothing. ... (stuttering) ... there's no comparison to that, to
this. They've robbed us of our land, and they've taken us and driven us until
we tried to find ourselves ... we tried to find a new beginning, but it's too
late. You can't separate yourself from your brother and your sister. No way I'm
gonna do it. I refuse. I don't know who fired the shot, I don't know who killed
the Congressman. But as far as I'm concerned, I killed him. You understand what
I'm saying? I killed him. He had no business coming.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I told him not to come… (long pause) …die
with respect, die with a degree of dignity. Lay down your life with dignity.
Don't lay down with tears and agony. It's nothing to death, just like Max said.
It's just stepping over into another plane. Don't, don't be this way. Stop this
hysterics ... This is not the way for people who are socialistic Communists to
die ... no way for us to die. We must die with some dignity...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That’s right (pause)...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">...
soon we'll have no choice. Now we have some choice. You think they're gonna
send, allow this to be done and allow us to get by with this<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>you must be insane ... But children, it's just
something to put you to rest ... Oh, God ... (babies crying in background) ...
mother, mother, mother, mother, mother, please, mother, please, please, please,
don't, don't do this, don't do this ... lay down your life with your child, but
don't do this...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">... doing all of this for
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Free at last (clapping)…please keep your
emotions down, keep your emotions down ... children, it will not hurt if you
will be, if you'll be quiet, if you'll be quiet (children crying in background,
tramming, music) ... pause ... it's never been done before you say? It's been
done by every tribe in history, every tribe facing annihilation. All the
Indians in the Amazon are doing it now. They refuse to bring any babies into
the world. They kill every child that comes into the world, because they don't
want to live in this kind of a world. So be patient, be patient ... death is
... I tell you I don't care how many screams you hear, I don't care how many
anguished cries ... death is a million times preferable to ten more days of
this life.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>If you knew what was ahead of
you, if you knew what was ahead of you, you'd be glad to be stepping over
tonight. Death, death, death is common to people ... and the Eskimos; they take
death in their stride. Let's, let's be dignified. If you'll quit telling them
they're dying, if you adults will stop some of this nonsense ... Adults,
adults, adults, I call on you to stop this nonsense. I call on you to quit
exciting your children when all they're doing is going to a quiet rest. I call
on you to stop this now. If you have any respect Are we black, proud and
Socialist, or what are we? Now atop this nonsense, don't carry this on any
more, you're exciting your children. (Crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>right, right.)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>All over and it's good. No, no sorrow that
it's all over. I'm glad it's over ... Hurry, hurry my children, hurry. All I
say, let's not fall in the hands of the enemy. Hurry, my children. Hurry ...
there are seniors out here that I'm concerned about. Hurry, I don't want to
leave my seniors to this mess. Quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly ...
sisters, good knowing you ... no more pain now ... no more pain I said, Al, no
more pain. Jim Cobb is laying on the airfield dead at this moment ... (cheers,
shouting and clapping) ... remember though this Oliver woman said she, she'd
come over and kill me if her son wouldn't have stopped her. These, these are
people that are peddlers of hate. All we're doing is laying down our life.
We're not letting them take our life. We're laying down our lives ...
(background voices) ... not taking their lives. We just want peace.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>All I'd like to say is that my so-called
parents are filled with so much hate (Background voice saying, "O.K., stop
this stop this, stop this, children, stop this crying, all of you.") ...
in countries.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I think you people out
here should think about how your relatives was and be glad about, that the
children are being to rest and all I can say is that I thank Dad for making me
strong to stand with it all and make me ready for it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Thank you. ...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>All that's, let me - All they're doing is
taking a drink, that takes, to go to sleep ... That's what death is, sleep ...
I know, but I'm tired of it all.</span></div>
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loving thing we could have ever done, the most loving thing all of us could
have done and it's been a pleasure walking with all of you in this
revolutionary struggle. No other way I would rather go than to give my life for
Socialism, Communism and I thank Dad very, very much.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That, that Dad's love and mercy, goodness and
kindness and bring us to this land of freedom, his love, his mother was the
advanced, the advanced guide to Socialism and his love, his mercy will go on
forever, unto the (unintelligible word) ...</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>(unintelligible words) ... Where's the vat,
the vat, the vat? Where's the vat with the green C thing? CN.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Unwoman:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Love is to go on
(unintelligible words) ... and thank you, Dad.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">Jones</span></b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">:<span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>The vat, with the green CN please. Bring it
here so the adults can begin ... beg you, don't, don't, fail to follow my
advice, you'll be sorry ... you'll be sorry ... (unintelligible word) ... that
we'll do it than that they do it ... (voices in the background saying, that's
right, that's right) ... Must trust, you have to step across ... We used to
sing<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span></b>“this world, this world's not our home.”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, it sure isn't. ...</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 150%;">We were saying, it sure
wasn't ... Really doesn't want, you're telling me. All he's doing is what we’ll
tell him.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Assure these…can some people
assure these children of the relaxation of stepping over to the next plane? That'd
set an example for others. You set 1,000 people who say, “We don’t like the
world is.” (Crowd:<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></b>That's right, that's right)...
(unintelligible words) ... take our life from us, we laid it down, we got
tired. We didn't commit suicide. We committed an act of revolutionary suicide
protesting the conditions of an inhumane world.”... </span></div>
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Tell me, seriously, would you bash one of these up your arse and allow it to be lit, just for fun? I'm betting that if you have an IQ above 110 then answer is hell no! If you're an American frat boy though, preferably under-age and pissed up, the answer would be, "Light me up buddy!" After all, being a dickhead is what college is all about, allegedly. Me? Well, no. I've never gone in for bum style tomfoolery, I've kept my ring fairly clean and well away from anyone, other than to drop the occasional brown-eye at passing vehicles, both drunk and sober. It's an Australian thing, the brown-eye, a lost art. Call it juvenile, but at least there's no exploding involved. Oh, and the odd fart has been lit, but anyone who knows me very well knows that the idea of me lighting a fart would be tantamount to someone releasing a WMD, so I've avoided that too.<br />
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What have I done at parties? Depends on the era, the state of mind, the amount and quality of booze I've ingested, if there was any other substance involved and if I was depressed or happy. They're called factors, Max. For example, when I was younger I'd merely drink, sing at the top of my lungs, have a fight, dance and do stupid things like drink an entire bottle of Heinz Big Red on a $50 bet - and I collected. Lovely stuff, that sauce. I used to get it on with females. As I got older I stopped the fighting and stupid things, got drunk, sang at the top of my lungs and had fun with females. After a while I'd merely sit back and watch others make utter clowns of themselves. And with good reason.<br />
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This is going somewhere, trust me. I've decided that I want to study law and also learn the piano. I can't afford a red sports car, so I'm doing the crisis thing in an alternate manner to most. All I need is a keyboard, which I hope to get at some stage - that part, the learning of the piano, is fairly easy. I have a damned fine guitar here, but, as people tell me, as a guitarist I make a great drummer, and as a drummer I'm pretty damn good. I can hold a tune, keep the beat and do some flashy stuff, all without any training but I'm no Gene Krupa, let's just say that. My singing voice isn't that flash, I can carry a tune, I have some range and I don't embarrass myself at karaoke nights (well, other than that night when my pants came down, but we don't talk about that), and I sound better than Eddie Van Halen does these days. But then again so does a cat having barbed wire pulled out of it's arse.<br />
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The law thing is a bit trickier. I want to study law for my own reasons. I don't want to be a lawyer, I can't think of anything worse. But I have studied other things in the past, such as meteorology successfully, and I feel that law, while it won't be a snap, will be something I can master. Like most things in this world, once you apply logic to it, it makes sense, and with law, once you have the logic, you then remove the logic and understand that the application of law is unpredictable and open for interpretation by whoever sits in judgement that day. If you can do that, then it'll all make perfect sense. To break it down, learn the rules, understand that your comprehension of the rules is different to that of the beak and you'll be fine. Works for me. As part of my studies I've been going through a lot of cases, just reading them in their entirety and attempting to understand where the judge was coming from when he passed down his/her rulings. So far I've gotten good enough to predict an outcome with some success. Yay for me!<br />
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Some of the cases I've studied have been sad, some have been funny, some bizarre and some have been just downright fucked up, like this one. Now bear with me here - this is a true story...it happened in Florida and is currently before the courts. Seriously! Here's the 'factual background', as taken from the complaint:<br />
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<i>On May 1, 2011, at approximately 1:30 a.m., there were several persons present on the outside deck of the ATO fraternity house located on 5' Avenue in Huntington. The ATO had a "house party," and various persons, including Defendant Hughes and Plaintiff, congregated at the ATO house. Several of the people in attendance at said house party were under the legal drinking age, including Defendant Travis Hughes. Most of the persons in attendance at said house party were also consuming alcohol with the full knowledge and consent of the ATO fraternity. </i><br />
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<i>Upon information and belief, Defendant Hughes was an ATO fraternity member on May 1, 2011.
7. Plaintiff was also present, along with his girlfriend, at the ATO house on May 1, 2011 at the aforementioned time. </i><br />
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<i>Defendant Hughes was highly intoxicated on this date and time, and decided in his drunken stupor that it would be a good idea to shoot bottle rockets out of his anus on the ATO deck, located on the back of the ATO house. </i><br />
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<i>Upon information and belief, there were several other ATO fraternity members on the deck at the time of this incident, including one or more officers of the fraternity. Plaintiff and his girlfriend were also present on the ATO deck. </i><br />
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<i>Defendant Hughes placed a bottle rocket in his anus, ignited the fuse, but instead of launching, the bottle rocket blew up in Defendant's rectum, and this startled plaintiff and caused him to jump back, at which time he fell off of the ATO deck, and he became lodged between the deck and an air conditioner unit adjacent to the deck. </i><br />
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<i>There was no railing on said deck at the time of the incident. Upon information
and belief, the lack of a railing had existed for at least several months, if not years, before the incident. Upon further information and belief, the deck never had a railing when it was installed, or any time thereafter. The subject deck was approximately 3-4 feet high.</i> </blockquote>
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Now I don't know about you, but the sight of someone, pissed as a fart, blowing his arse up with a firecracker would have caused me to near shit my pants with laughter. And I don't need any form of a degree, let alone a law degree, to know that it's not a good idea in anyone's books. But, wait, it gets better. If you think that the guy who nuked his crack is the one suing, think again. The one who is suing is the dude who went arse-up over the deck and landed between the air-conditioner and the wall. Really! The grounds for the suit are that the ATO (which I keep thinking is the Australian Taxation Office) in question allowed Defendant Hughes to drink, under-age, allowed him to stick the cracked up his ring and failed to provide railing for the deck, thus ensuring that any jocularity might result in injury. The plaintiff is suing for pain and suffering, and missing a few baseball games.<br />
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Defendant Hughes doesn't escape either. As well as having what must be the sorest arse in Florida, he's also going to have to appear in court. "<i>Defendant Hughes also owed plaintiff and others on the ATO deck a duty of care not to drink under age, or to fire bottle rockets out of his anus</i>." The former part is obvious, you'd think, under-age drinking is a crime, but, apparently, the act of lighting a firecracker within the Huntington City Limits is also a crime! Thus, by blowing his freckle into shards, he broke the law. The other, albeit untentionally, funny part of the complaint reads as such, "<i>Plaintiff asserts that the activity of underaged drinking and firing bottle rockets out of one's own anus constitutes an "ultra-hazardous" activity which exposes both of these defendants to strict liability</i>." The Plaintiff wants money, naturally, and is suing for an undisclosed sum. Imagine that! <br />
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By this stage, if you have any form of intelligence, you'd be wondering if this is true - sadly it is, and it's more proof why the American legal system is fucked. Even worse, America, meet the next leaders of your land. College students, if you're not bright enough to know that it's not a good idea to stick an explosive up your arse, quit now. Just quit. Or go for a higher grade of explosive, like a stick of TNT. That makes a good sound when it goes off. Suing someone because you were so startled at the sight of a firecracker
exploding in another persons arse that you went over the edge of a deck
and got wedged between the air-con and a wall is a bit insane really. I don't know about you,
but I'm still be laughing at all of that - and I'm sure it'll turn up
in the next Adam Sandler movie. Hell, it'd be funnier than the shit
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We did the holiday thing a short while ago, ended up in Melbourne where we caught the most amazing gig on New Years Eve - more on that later. On the way we went through Bendigo and off to Kelly Country and Murchison, the latter was to seek out the long forgotten WWII German/Italian P.O.W. camps, long forgotten and sadly long gone. There's not much there to see and what remains is either covered by long grass or crumbling into oblivion. Still, as is my wont, where I go my camera goes with me, and I have a tendency to take as many photos as I can. The joys of a digital camera means I can snap as many photos as my little heart desires. If they're no good then I can delete them there and then, the rest come with me. Brilliant! Digital cameras have made my life a joy really.<br />
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Travelling can be both tiresome and interesting. Driving isn't something I enjoy doing non-stop in the heat of the day, and Australian summers are damn hot indeed. But for all of the bad hotel rooms, lumpy beds and noisy people in the next room rooting, there's moments of sheer euphoria and epiphany, such as what I experienced at the very top of Hanging Rock, sharing the crisp morning air with merely a lizard and a flock of butterflies. Say what you want, but this is a wonderful country with much to see and experience. And, for those who might be curious, here's just a few of the 500+ photos I took during the past two weeks. I hope you enjoy them. Personally I think the more I use the camera, the better I get at taking photos, but I'm happy to leave that open to the masses.<br />
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And he's rooted a few of them in his time too. However Wussel Bwand's marriage to Katy Perry hasn't lasted all that long, but at least it lasted longer than Sinead O'Conner's last effort, which, by all accounts, lasted just long enough for Sinead to win custody of the wedding cake. I always expect these so called 'celebrity' marriages do fall to pieces shortly after they're entered into and this was no exception. I've always thought that Brand was about as heavyweight as a hot air balloon, and Perry, singer of crap songs and peddler of zit cream, isn't much better. In fact, they appear to be perfectly matched when you look at it - the bland meets the vapid. You work out which one is which.<br />
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As it is Brand, who is 'working' on his new book, My Divorcy Worcy by slurring at some poor hack, has done the filing in court, and here it is. Poor Kathryn Hudson, she's now going to be single and back to kissing girls. Perhaps she can compare notes with some of the other media whores, who are famous for doing nothing and just being - like Paris Stilton and Kim Kardassian.<br />
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